HIGHLA-L Digest - 8 Jan 2004 to 9 Jan 2004 - Special issue (#2004-9)
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1. Deep Impacting (22)
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:25:04 -0500
From: Wendy Tillis <immortals_incorporated@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
John:
>"Well, d'uh." If there are no mini-series pix yet (it hasn't begun
>filming) then any photo could be misleading as it's 'old'. Our interviewee talks
>about how the Highlander franchise has evolved into this latest incarnation
>and Duncan is referenced/talked about a lot as part of that. Now, if I'd
>put on a Stargate instead, you'd have finally made a point.
Using AP's picture on the cover to herald a new HL mini-series does seem designed to catch the eyes (and wallets) of fans who will buy the magazine assuming that there is a new AP/HL mini-series in the works. I know you don't want to talk about the article while there is still a chance people will buy the magazine, but...are there no actors signed for the mini-series? Was it impossible to use a photo of one of the new actors (if any are actually under contract) under the banner of "A Brand New Highlander"?
I'm certainly not suggesting that it's illegal or immortal or unethical to use a photo of AP to represent an article about "the evolution of TV's Highlander and the all new mini-series". And, for all I know (since I couldn't find the magazine) the article may be 75% about Adrian and only 25% about the new mini-series. However, it does strike me as slightly disingenuous to pretend that some consideration wasn't given to AP's "selling power". A small picture of some unknown actor next to the words "Highlander mini-series" isn't going to sell as many magazines to HL fans as one that suggests, ever so subliminally, that AP is connected to the project. Selling magazines is a business ...one designed to make money. As such, using a picture of AP instead some Highlander-come-lately actor makes good sense. Why pretend otherwise?
As for Stargate...if you were doing an article on the new Atlantis series and used a photo of Kurt Russell from the Stargate movie, I might be lead to assume that Russell was in the new series and might buy the magazine to find out how he was lured into series work. And that would be the point of using his photo, right? To lure me into buying the magazine? (And I'd be pissed to discover that Kurt was only referenced in the article as part of the evolution of Stargate.)( But that's just me.)(I don't want a picture of a 3-layer chocolate cake on the cover if the article attached is about the benefits of carob-flavored soy crackers.)
John:
>(and, to echo Donna Lettow's general feelings on aspects of criticism, if
>Nina thinks she can do a better job editing a magazine, all she has to do
>is get a job doing that to prove it)
Saying that one must actually *do* a job before one is allowed to criticize someone else who *does* do the job would put most critics out of business, wouldn't it?
Wendy("Excuse me, doctor, you seem to have cut off the wrong leg")("Don't criticize until *you've* tried major surgery with a hang-over")
Immortals Inc.
immortals_incorporated@cox.net
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 01:07:52 EST
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
In a message dated 1/8/2004 5:26:57 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
Bschep@aol.com writes:
> what are Donna and Gillian doing these days.
Among other things, Gillian was teaching a screenwriting course at a college
in CA, and she and Donna both lived in upper Canada for awhile working on
another tv series, and both worked their proverbials off gathering, sorting all
and then commenting on some of the extras for the season 3-6 DVD's..
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 01:33:59 EST
From: Ashton7@aol.com
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
In a message dated 1/8/2004 8:55:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
a.j.mosby@btinternet.com writes:
> But I'm sure actually buying a magazine would be too close
> to putting your money where your mouth is.
>
Is Impact sold in Spain? We're going to be in Barcelona in a few weeks.
Annie
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:12:06 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
me before--
> >(And you have gone way past
> > sarcasm into desperate & rather telling rudeness.)
John--
> Mr Pot meet Mr Kettle.
Gee--back on the playground, are we?
> Nina, if *anyone* on this List thinks I have a
> fraction of your ability to ruin occasional good arguments with needless
> sideswipes while blending vitriol and sarcasm then let them speak up now.
> No-one? Well, isn't THAT rather telling? :)
Talking to oneself is one thing; answering for others is usually a bad
sign.
John, you persist in discussing Impact's HL coverage here, & that's fine. I
think that re: the Impact cover you did a bad thing for an unpleasant
reason, & I said so, in a civil fashion.
Why DO you feel the need to argue about it w/ vitriol as your only defence?
In fact--please copy/paste anything from my previous posts (I believe there
are only 3) in this thread that is anywhere as nasty as what you wrote
above. Or as some of your past tidbits in this thread, as follows--
>>>Nina (rapidly demonstrating that there's no shortage of opinion, just not
much
based on much knowledge)>>
>>>Ah. The Law according to La Miserable. >>>
>>>It was obviosuly you needed counseling>>>
>>>Again with the lack of knowledge and basic measurement skills.>>>
Feel free to keep posting that way--it's fine w/ me. But claiming the high
road when you're drenched in muck just makes you look silly.
> And again. There. Are. No. Mini-Series. Pictures. Yet.
And, again--choosing to use a photo of AP _rather than_ another HL photo at
least somewhat related to the mini-series shows me Impact wants to sell mags
to AP fans--regardless of whether he's involved. So much for all that high
& mighty sermonizing about Endgame's shameful trailer.
> And hey, Nina, always glad to show up and show you up.
Good luck w/ that.
Nina (or, maybe you should come up w/ a less sad goal in life)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:15:03 -0000
From: "a.j.mosby" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
Wendy
Thanks for the polite observations which I will try to answer in the same
fashion.
> Using AP's picture on the cover to herald a new HL mini-series does seem
designed to catch the eyes (and wallets) of fans who will buy the magazine
assuming that there is a new AP/HL mini-series in the works. I know you
don't want to talk about the article while there is still a chance people
will buy the magazine, but...are there no actors signed for the mini-series?
Was it impossible to use a photo of one of the new actors (if any are
actually under contract) under the banner of "A Brand New Highlander"?
Obviously there ARE new characters involved in a new story (and, yes, I'll
fully admit that I'm not going to totally reveal the content of the feature
here because I DO want the issue of Impact to sell. However much I love
Highlander, I have some duty - once I've made sure an article is
commisioned/planned - to make sure sales of the magazine reflect that
interest) but NONE of them are cast at this point, so it's impossible to
feature them at this point. If casting had been finalised and images
available we would be the first magazine to have used them and it would have
made the perfect cover shot. As that isn't a possibility it was my decision
(and yes, I'll take the full responsibility) to put a recognisaible
Highlander image onto the cover. Nina has helpfully mentioned a whole raft
of options that she would have liked to see, but it was not her decision and
she's demonstrated that she doesn't know all the technical reasons images
are selected above others. I would ask everyone here to ask themselves the
following question: If I had to use one image to encapsulate Highlander,
what would it be? I'm guessing that for most here, it's Duncan holding a
sword. There's so much more to the show than that, but that single image
probably identifies the franchise better than any other. With an article in
which our interviewee talks at lengths about the influence of the original
series, the strengths of both Adrian Paul and Duncan MacLeod and what this
will mean for the subsequent mini-series, I don't think the image of Duncan
on the cover is in any way inappropriate. I will say that though Duncan
will not be the main focus of the mini-series - with the final script being
delivered in the next fortnight - it doesn't preclude him possibly
appearing. The same goes for some other established characters.
>
> I'm certainly not suggesting that it's illegal or immortal or unethical to
use a photo of AP to represent an article about "the evolution of TV's
Highlander and the all new mini-series". And, for all I know (since I
couldn't find the magazine) the article may be 75% about Adrian and only 25%
about the new mini-series. However, it does strike me as slightly
disingenuous to pretend that some consideration wasn't given to AP's
"selling power". A small picture of some unknown actor next to the words
"Highlander mini-series" isn't going to sell as many magazines to HL fans as
one that suggests, ever so subliminally, that AP is connected to the
project. Selling magazines is a business ...one designed to make money. As
such, using a picture of AP instead some Highlander-come-lately actor makes
good sense. Why pretend otherwise?
As above, I admit it makes good business sense. However I do find the
comparison to the Endgame trailer made by Nina to be somewhat misleading. My
arguments with that was producing a trailer that had no intention of
reflecting the whole movie it was promoting. The cover image on Impact
reflects a valid part of the content of the article inside with the access
we had. If we'd waited until May/June to run the story, things might have
been different image-wise, but I'm not sure any other magazine or Net
website would have done things any differently and, ultimately, you'd have
had to wait half the year for the information we're giving you next week. I
had to sit on the knowledge of Spike's demise on Buffy for four months, not
being able to tell ANYONE what I knew was coming. For Highlander, I was
given permission to share what I knew more quickly.
>
> As for Stargate...if you were doing an article on the new Atlantis series
and used a photo of Kurt Russell from the Stargate movie, I might be lead to
assume that Russell was in the new series and might buy the magazine to find
out how he was lured into series work. And that would be the point of using
his photo, right? To lure me into buying the magazine? (And I'd be pissed
to discover that Kurt was only referenced in the article as part of the
evolution of Stargate.)( But that's just me.)(I don't want a picture of a
3-layer chocolate cake on the cover if the article attached is about the
benefits of carob-flavored soy crackers.)
Fair points all. If we were to do a piece on breaking news about Stargate:
Atlantis, we would first see if there were images from the new show. If not
we would look for an image that reflected the franchise. We might well use
an image of the Stargate itself. Possibly a picture of the SG1 team,
indicating that we'd be looking at what came next and if they'd be involved.
A single stand-alone 'sword' to represent Highlander wouldn't be as specific
as I think it would need to be. But again - yes - it's about instant
recognition on the shelf.
>
> John:
> >(and, to echo Donna Lettow's general feelings on aspects of criticism,
if
> >Nina thinks she can do a better job editing a magazine, all she has to do
> >is get a job doing that to prove it)
>
> Saying that one must actually *do* a job before one is allowed to
criticize someone else who *does* do the job would put most critics out of
business, wouldn't it?
While it's fine to have any opinion you want - and express it - it's
infinitely more difficult to have that opinion taken seriously if you
demonstrate you get your facts wrong. As a patient, I wouldn't tell a doctor
how to better re-attach my arm. I would however value his opinion - after
years of training and experience - over that of someone who sets the VCR for
ER every week and thinks they could perform the same operation.
As for the issue of the issue of Impact, I welcome any critique over its
content once it has been read.
John
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:15:50 -0000
From: "a.j.mosby" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
> Is Impact sold in Spain? We're going to be in Barcelona in a few weeks.
>
> Annie
Not as yet. But it's being worked on. (Not in time for your visit though.)
John
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 07:45:34 EST
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
In a message dated 1/8/2004 11:27:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
immortals_incorporated@cox.net writes:
> Using AP's picture on the cover to herald a new HL mini-series does seem
> designed to catch the eyes (and wallets) of fans who will buy the magazine
> assuming that there is a new AP/HL mini-series in the works. I know you don't
> want to talk about the article while there is still a chance people will buy
> the magazine, but...are there no actors signed for the mini-series? Was it
> impossible to use a photo of one of the new actors (if any are actually under
> contract) under the banner of "A Brand New Highlander"?
>
One of the problems with HIGHLANDER publicity is that it's almost completely
oriented toward the *characters* who played Immortals. Unlike most other
Sci-Fi and fantasy shows, there are no convenient, non-actor symbols that you can
use to capture the concept of the franchise, like a stargate, a well-known
starship, a One Ring. Even the "Highlanders" themselves change, within the
franchise.
While I recognize the disappointment that using AP as the recognizable HL
symbol on the cover has caused, about the only other thing I think they could
have used was the Logo for the series.
Leah
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:46:15 -0000
From: "a.j.mosby" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
> And, again--choosing to use a photo of AP _rather than_ another HL photo
at
> least somewhat related to the mini-series shows me Impact wants to sell
mags
> to AP fans--regardless of whether he's involved. So much for all that
high
> & mighty sermonizing about Endgame's shameful trailer.
> Nina
Nina.
Seems you have a bigger bee in your bonnet about that trailer than I do! Do
me the smallest of favours. Read my repsonses to you. Read my response to
Wendy. Then... read the magazine. THEN come back to me and critique.
Otherwise you are merely sermonising to yourself and continuing to speculate
about an article which you haven't seen yet (and have yourself have claimed
you are tired of hearing about).
John
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:51:41 -0000
From: "a.j.mosby" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
> One of the problems with HIGHLANDER publicity is that it's almost
completely
> oriented toward the *characters* who played Immortals. Unlike most other
> Sci-Fi and fantasy shows, there are no convenient, non-actor symbols that
you can
> use to capture the concept of the franchise, like a stargate, a well-known
> starship, a One Ring. Even the "Highlanders" themselves change, within the
> franchise.
>
> While I recognize the disappointment that using AP as the recognizable HL
> symbol on the cover has caused, about the only other thing I think they
could
> have used was the Logo for the series.
>
> Leah
Which just goes to prove that Leah and I can politely agree on any number of
things! :)
Hopefully my post to Wendy and a subsequent reading of the article itself
will allow everyone to judge the decision fairly in context. The text of the
piece is informative. The pictures represent the Highlander evolution. This
article BEGINS what will hopefully be a series of reports over the year on
how the mini-series is progressing and I promise to bring the first images
from the project as soon as we can.
John
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:00:37 EST
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
In a message dated 1/9/2004 7:52:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
a.j.mosby@btinternet.com writes:
> Which just goes to prove that Leah and I can politely agree on any number
> of
> things! :)
>
>
It would be irrational to disagree with someone on a matter of simple reality
and logic, simply to disagree.
Unless you're Nina, of course.
Leah
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:20:40 -0500
From: "~grumpy" <zimmy@highstream.net>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
At 07:45 AM 1/9/2004, you wrote:
>While I recognize the disappointment that using AP as the recognizable HL
>symbol on the cover has caused, about the only other thing I think they could
>have used was the Logo for the series.
:::: fiddling with katana letter opener ::::
I was watching something - can't even remember what - that was set in
Paris. I found myself straining to see where the barge used to be.
A picture of the barge with a superimposed katana? Is there anyone who
watched HL who wouldn't recognize that?
I'm not surprised that they'd use AP's picture (what's he doing these days,
btw?). The media is still getting mileage out of poor Princess Diana.
ZK (back after forgetting to resub)(Wendy, you got any of those warm amber
liquids that we used a few years back for flu & stuff?)
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:53:30 -0500
From: "a.j.mosby@btinternet.com" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
>A picture of the barge with a superimposed katana? Is there anyone who
watched HL who wouldn't recognize that?
Which would be fine if the Highlander article was appearing in French Barge
Monthly. But if you are dealing with an action magazine then you go for the
action pose and recognisable face relevant to the feature. Let me also ask
people to read the text (I appreciate that it might not be clear). It talks
about the evolution of Highlander, the mini-series and mentions the
competition to win a Duncan MacLeod katana. The fact that some people think
that using a picture of Duncan MacLeod to promote those points is
exploitative is a little strange.
Also worth noting is that we aren't just appealling to the HL on-line
community. Fans who are more casual in their viewing and less committed
(which frankly makes up a much larger percentage than the more passionate
fans). To attract those people, you can't afford to be too subtle.
>I'm not surprised that they'd use AP's picture (what's he doing these days,
btw?). The media is still getting mileage out of poor Princess Diana.
Not quite sure of the connection there. But, yes, it's a little sad that
people keep dredging up this real-life tragedy. Perhaps if things had been
done slightly differently at the time, there would be less specualtion and
more facts.
John
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:09:14 EST
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
In a message dated 1/9/2004 11:29:31 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
zimmy@highstream.net writes:
> (what's he doing these days,
> btw?).
Read all about it.
http://www.hidef.com/adriannet/htdocs/current/newswire.html
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:32:37 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
Leah--
> While I recognize the disappointment that using AP as the recognizable HL
> symbol on the cover has caused, about the only other thing I think they
could
> have used was the Logo for the series.
I agree the HL logo would have been more appropriate, but here's a
thought--they could have used a photograph of the mystery interviewee, the
person actually providing Impact w/ the scoop on the mini-series. Impact
DOES have a photographer, right John?
Nina (maybe the photographer ran off w/ Impact's publicity budget) (that's a
joke, John)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:54:26 -0000
From: "a.j.mosby" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
> I agree the HL logo would have been more appropriate, but here's a
> thought--they could have used a photograph of the mystery interviewee, the
> person actually providing Impact w/ the scoop on the mini-series. Impact
> DOES have a photographer, right John?
>
> Nina (maybe the photographer ran off w/ Impact's publicity budget) (that's
a
> joke, John)
> mac.westie@verizon.net
101 redux. :)
As mentioned previously, the logo on an already text-heavy cover wouldn't
have worked. Also it's an old logo and you say anything dated might confuse
people?
A photo of the interviewee? Truly...does anyone outside of regular Con-going
HL fans know (or care) what Donna Lettow, Gillian Horvath, David Abramowitz
or Peter Briggs looks like? Would these relatively unknown faces make people
think 'Wow! A Highlander article!' from six feet away?
And again. The actual cover copy:
"The Evolution of TV's Highlander and the all all new Mini Series. Plus: A
Chance to win Duncan's Katana!"
If anyone can't see why Duncan MacLeod isn't relevant to that headline, I
hear Lorenzo Lamas's website is taking members.
Everyone else...enjoy the issue and I'll be happy to comment once people
have read it.
John
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:23:35 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
John--
>>>A photo of the interviewee? Truly...does anyone outside of regular
Con-going
HL fans know (or care) what Donna Lettow, Gillian Horvath, David Abramowitz
or Peter Briggs looks like? Would these relatively unknown faces make people
think 'Wow! A Highlander article!' from six feet away?>>>
Well, putting HIGHLANDER on there in big print (exactly as you did w/ the AP
photo) takes care of that little problem.
So those are the folks being interviewed? You are right about one
thing--they aren't likely to sell mags. So, Impact went w/ AP.
John--
> Seems you have a bigger bee in your bonnet about that trailer than I
Size matters, of course, but let's just call it a tie on that issue, shall
we?
> Do
> me the smallest of favours. Read my repsonses to you. Read my response to
> Wendy. Then... read the magazine. THEN come back to me and critique.
First, YOU have to do the much less intensive homework I assigned you
yesterday. Of course, that would entail admitting you are the only one
resorting to insults & vitriol here....
> Otherwise you are merely sermonising to yourself and continuing to
speculate
> about an article which you haven't seen yet
If you didn't want discussion about Impact, you probably shouldn't have
(repeatedly) promoted the upcoming issue here in teasing & largely fact-free
fashion.
You told us Impact had an upcoming article on the new HL mini-series. The
cover (that you leaked as part of your mag promo activities) uses a shot of
AP--who is not in the mini-series & was not interviewed in the mag & was
simply used by Impact as bait. It's not a sin, a crime, or the end of the
world. However, as a mag buyer who resents being jerked around by
misleading covers (about as much as I resent misleading TV episode teasers &
movie trailers), I DO find it dishonest & tacky.
Nina (expecting my lifetime subscription to Impact as thanks for all this
free publicity)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 22:23:58 -0000
From: "a.j.mosby" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
> So those are the folks being interviewed? You are right about one
> thing--they aren't likely to sell mags. So, Impact went w/ AP.
Darling Nina,
I respectfully suggest you read the piece to see the person we've
interviewed. The comment about writers selling mags stands as a general
example you'd agree with.
Again, you are welcome to indulge in a critique when you've read what you're
talking about, but I'd find it awfully gratifying if you'd wait until you've
seen the article before passing judgement on whether the cover represents
the feature, interview and competition fairly. Otherwise, it might be
perceived as uninformed and arguing for arguing's sake. And I know you'd
never be controversial just for the heck of it.
Thanks oooodles.
John
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:03:23 -0500
From: Elaine Nicol <ElaineN@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
Nina wrote:
>> You told us Impact had an upcoming article on the new HL mini-series.
The
cover (that you leaked as part of your mag promo activities) uses a shot of
AP--who is not in the mini-series & was not interviewed in the mag & was
simply used by Impact as bait. It's not a sin, a crime, or the end of the
world. However, as a mag buyer who resents being jerked around by
misleading covers (about as much as I resent misleading TV episode teasers
&
movie trailers), I DO find it dishonest & tacky. <<
I'm sorry I don't see your problem. One of the reasons I am here and
have been for a long long time is to get information about anything
regarding Highlander, as well as talking to people listening to others
thoughts on the show etc.
John informed us that the magazine he works for is doing an item on
Highlander - Thank you for the heads up John. It is good that we have
people here who work on these mags. In this case for me it's irrelevant
as I have been reading Impact for a long long time, since before John
started working on it. But for other things magazines, web sites etc with
things of interest I'm grateful for people telling me.
As to using Adrian's picture on the cover. Most people will be drawn to
that then read what it says and decide if they want to buy it. A logo
wouldn't cut it, most things wouldn't the only other photos that might draw
the attention is Christopher Lambert or Sean Connery. I hate being misled
by magazines too, but more I hate to miss an item I might be interested in.
Oh the thing I hate most are people who stand for ages going through a
magazine in a shop instead of buying it.
You have stated your point but now it's beginning to sound as though you
have something personal against John - I have no idea if you have - if you
have why don't you just ignore his posts in the way I do and I'm sure most
people do with posts they are not interested in.
Elaine.
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:49:26 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
> Elaine--
> I hate being misled
> by magazines too, but more I hate to miss an item I might be interested
in.
> Oh the thing I hate most are people who stand for ages going through a
> magazine in a shop instead of buying it.
Me, too. But looking through a mag pretty carefully is required, when one
can't rely on what's on the cover to accurately describe the contents.
Anyone seing his photo on the cover & wanting AP comments, appearances, or
other info would be disappointed in this issue of Impact, for instance (just
going on what John has told us is inside).
On reflection, I am beginning to agree w/ John that Impact's cover really
doesn't compare to the deception of Endgame's trailer. After all, AP & CL
were actually IN Endgame. Now, if Endgame's trailer had used clips of Sean
Connery, THAT would be on a par w/ Impact's cover.
Nina
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 00:51:57 -0000
From: "a.j.mosby" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
> On reflection, I am beginning to agree w/ John that Impact's cover really
> doesn't compare to the deception of Endgame's trailer. After all, AP & CL
> were actually IN Endgame. Now, if Endgame's trailer had used clips of
Sean
> Connery, THAT would be on a par w/ Impact's cover.
I didn't see a Stargate in Endgame. You will read about Adrian in the
article.The cover image (of Adrian with a sword) and associated text is
there to advertise the article. Yes I can see how Nina might fail to see the
connection between a picture of Duncan MacLeod and a feature in which he is
mentioned, discussed and there's a competition to win his sword. Must take a
bit of working out, that one.
And you might want to check on what I've said. You say I've said Adrian
won't appear. I never said that. For a very good reason: it's not been
finalised. So anything you come up with on that point is idle speculation.
Please don't mistake that for facts. You'll find those in the article you're
dissecting. The one that went to the printers today and I don't think you've
read yet, despite telling everyone what it does and doesn't say.
But for the record and to clarify for everyone else who isn't here simply to
spoil for a fight:
Should the *majority* of people on this List feel that I shouldn't alert it
to when Impact or Dreamwatch are next breaking Highlander news (or how to
subsequently get hold of such issues) I'm quite happy to never mention it
again.
If Nina wants the last word she can have it. I've stated my case, Buy the
issue. Don't buy the issue. No-one is forcing anyone to do either.
John
>
> Nina
> mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:07:48 EST
From: Highlandmg@aol.com
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
Hi John/List
I for one want to hear about news any news regarding Highlander. Be it a
magazine, Convention, (Workshop I hope some people from this list are planning to
attend this One of a kind event. ) So my two cents I want you to report.
Thanks John
Mary
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Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 20:20:02 -0500
From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Deep Impacting
At 07:51 PM 1/9/2004, a.j.mosby wrote:
>Should the *majority* of people on this List feel that I shouldn't alert
>it to when Impact or Dreamwatch are next breaking Highlander news (or how
>to subsequently get hold of such issues) I'm quite happy to never mention
>it again.
I appreciate you letting us know about upcoming articles, John. Please
don't stop.
-- Sandy
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