HIGHLA-L Digest - 8 Aug 2003 to 9 Aug 2003 (#2003-181)
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Topics of the day:
1. HL Moments (2)
2. HLDU Auction #17 underway :-)
3. Creative Ideas on How Best to Dump the HL *Tapes*?
4. Suicide and immortality? (2)
5. The Immortal Cimoli
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 22:17:52 EDT
From: Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@aol.com>
Subject: Re: HL Moments
In a message dated 8/8/2003 5:29:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
gmate@rogers.com writes:
> Nope, two totally different entities. Although once a year at a secret
> location they have special competitions, sort of like the old Battle of the
> Network Stars. Only reason the HL Watchers have the tattoos is that
> they've won every year running.
>
You kill me, Greg! ;)
Robin
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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 22:50:32 +1000
From: Carmel Macpherson <tunnack@webone.com.au>
Subject: HLDU Auction #17 underway :-)
Hi everyone
Our first fundraiser for HLDU6 is now underway
Bid early and bid often :-)
http://www.hldu.org/auc17.shtml
Kind regards
@ Carmel Macpherson
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@ carmel@hldu.org
http://www.hldu.org
http://www.hldu.org/workshop2004.shtml
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HLDU6: 29 April - 1 May, 2005. Sydney
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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 06:54:20 -0700
From: Pat Sonti <barrabas84022@yahoo.com>
Subject: Creative Ideas on How Best to Dump the HL *Tapes*?
Thanks for sharing *creative* ways on how best to get rid of the Highlander Series VHS tapes.
I thought of the local Boys & Girls Club and I took a drive over to the local San Luis Obispo (CA) clubhouse. They had a collection of various tapes and DVDs. I noticed, however, that VHS/DVD assortment that they already had were in poor shape. I wondered how my HL collection would fare in that environment.
A veteran's hospital will be my next stop. I wonder how they treat their collections!
Any other creative ideas will gratefully appreciated.
Pat Sonti (Morro Bay, CA)
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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 17:50:42 +0200
From: T'Mar <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
Subject: Re: Suicide and immortality?
Wendy:
>>>> OTOH, perhaps some people wake up from their ultimately unsuccessful
>suicide attempt and feel better. Life is suddenly a lot more interesting
>than they thought.>>>
Nina:
>Sounds like Methos. Now, THAT would be ironic.
And a *really* good idea for a fanfic. (Nina, slash enabler
and plot-bunny provider... heh heh.)
Mel (re Richie):
>:: Cue rant by Marina....that is, if you're still
>around here somewhere. ::
Nah, I'm not in the mood for ranting. Greg can think what he likes
about my sweet Richie. I know it's not true.
- Marina.
\\ "Good girls go to heaven. ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// Bad girls go to Smallville." || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ - 'Sorority Boys' wallpaper ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//=======tmar@sifl.iid.co.za========|| \\
\\=======Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=======//
"Colonel, we've found something you might wanna see."
"Daniel." - 'Fallen' (Stargate SG-1)
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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 14:29:36 EDT
From: Kamil Kamil <Kamil243612@aol.com>
Subject: Re: HL Moments
In a message dated 8/8/2003 4:29:21 PM Central Daylight Time,
gmate@rogers.com writes:
> He Who Hopes The Season Five Cheesy Medallion Has A Picture Of Duncan
> Taking Richie's Quickening
LOL! Hi, honey, I'm Kamil. Come over here and sit by me, okay. Because we'll
have fun. <weg>
--
Kamil
But to Spike fen it's always about Spike. The sun shines out his asshole, as
proven in "Chosen".
Kita
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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 18:34:54 -0400
From: SenseiRob@aol.com
Subject: The Immortal Cimoli
There's actually a lot in this episode, although it seems somewhat ridiculous at first glance. I'm going to concentrate on the "K'immie", Damon Case.
I've always felt Damon Case had much more depth to him than most other guest Immortals. There was a recent discussion here about absolute and relative morality, and I think Case is an intriguing character study into how someone can adopt, and adapt, their world view to suit immortality and the rules of the Game. (Of course, Cimoli was an extreme counterpoint to Case, adamantly refusing to accept the reality of his new situation).
We're introduced to Damon Case as a man uninterested in physical pleasures, unlike Duncan's silly French (and now headless) friend. He considers The Game to be spiritual and holy in nature, and that "ritual combat" is a necessary part of that life. It gives him a purpose, a reason for being, an answer to the age-old question... "Why am I here?"
"Ours is not a battle for glory, nor prying eyes."
There are a lot of reasons why Damon Case could evolve a behavioral code close to religious fanaticism. Holy Ground is a refuge, as is stated quite explicitly in The Rules. His age (ten centuries) and apparent ethnicity would lend credence to a Christian/Catholic background. Damon Case had to have died at some point, and was reborn... the implications of a resurrection would not have been lost to a man who now spends most of his time in presumably Christian churches, especially when accompanied by a chanted Latin soundtrack of religious terms <g>. And let's not forget the kneeling stance facing an inverted sword, which Case posed in several times for the symbolically impaired.
So here is a man who adapted his understanding of Immortality to dovetail into his religious beliefs. He was able to develop a rigid moral code which wouldn't just allow him to battle other Immortals, but in fact insisted that he do so. His reason for being immortal was to participate in the Game, no more, no less. It's an interesting way to adapt one's understanding of the universe to the reality of being immortal, creating a new morality in the process.
Was Damon Case immoral? He clearly had a strongly defined sense of what he considered right and wrong. How about for killing other immortals in fair combat? For killing those who had no wish to fight?
Was Duncan wrong for protecting Cimoli? For not staying to fight after Jean-Pierre was killed? For beheading Case for his convictions to pursue the Game? After all, Duncan was interfering in the Game itself... and what other purpose for immortality is there, except The Game?
But that's what Highlander is all about.
-Rob
SenseiRob@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 14:51:29 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Suicide and immortality?
> Wendy:
> >>>> OTOH, perhaps some people wake up from their ultimately unsuccessful
> >suicide attempt and feel better. Life is suddenly a lot more interesting
> >than they thought.>>>
> Nina:
> >Sounds like Methos. Now, THAT would be ironic.
Marina--
> And a *really* good idea for a fanfic.
No one was talking about fanfic. What IS it w/ you & fanfic? Why do you
INSIST on dragging that tired topic into EVERY discussion? Why in the world
do you CARE? You need to get over this bizarre obsession of yours. Get
back on your medication. Get a life.
Nina (w/ thanks to Jette, Pat, Carmel, et al, for the paraphrasing)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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