HIGHLA-L Digest - 3 Sep 2004 to 4 Sep 2004 (#2004-170)
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Topics of the day:
1. Season Five dvd Commentary: The End of Innocence
2. Highlander Toon Movie In Development (Film In 2006) (6)
3. Season Five dvd Commentary: Prophecy
4. HLWW Auc#20 up and running
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 16:49:52 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Season Five dvd Commentary: The End of Innocence
MacGeorge--
> One line I thought was particularly interesting. When Duncan is heading
> out to fight Clay, he tells Richie, “If he takes me, he’ll take you, too.”
>
> “Then don’t let him.”
>
> To me that seems deliberately evocative of Young Duncan’s line advising
> Older Duncan how to defeat Kantos: “Then don’t listen.”
Well, it isn't.
What is interesting about that line is how it contradicts several other
times in the series, when an Immie is discouraged from fighting or at least
taking a head, because the other Immie's ally is near enough to step in &
then BH _him_ while still weak from the 1st Quickening. Guess RR really
_was_ a crappy swordsman.
>I still maintain
> that the key to defeating Kantos had nothing to do with earplugs, and
> everything to do with Duncan’s restored faith in himself. It is a
> recurrent theme that we see in this episode, again in the AAA arc and
> even in the final episode of the series.
That was a recurrent theme for the ENTIRE series, as DM is frequently shown
both in flashback & in the present, to be unsure of his right to live after
various actions he took, as well as of the desirability to keep on living
despite inevitable pain & loss. Sure, DM was a bit down as of the start of
season 5 due to the Watcher blow-up & Joe, but relatively speaking he had
faced & survived far worse & he would do so again--repeatedly (the Horsemen,
those annoying BKCs that tried to steal his show, Ahriman, & finally
O'Rourke). The key to surviving the very last episode may have been
restored faith in himself, but Kantos was defeated by logic & clear thinking
(on DM's part--NOT Cassie's). And earplugs.
Nina
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 21:57:44 -0500
From: Ginny <RED57@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Highlander Toon Movie In Development (Film In 2006)
Evelyn Duncan wrote on 9/3/2004, 8:07 PM:
> If it's anything like Witch Hunter Robin, Cowboy Bebop, or Big O
> (three adult anime), I would watch it and (probably) buy it.
True. I really, really liked Cowboy Bebop. That could be okay. Or
something like Samurai Jack, except with kilts. ;)
--
Ginny
RED57@aol.com
Fresh out of .sig lines
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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 02:58:13 -0400
From: Helva Peters <HelvaP@compuserve.com>
Subject: Season Five dvd Commentary: Prophecy
from Nina (MacWestie):
> As a practical matter, it doesn't work for the show to have specific
> abilities or even philosophical inclinations passed from Immie to Immie via
> Qs. For one thing, most BHd Immies are evil--so, you'd have your hero
> regularly picking up nasty habits & attitudes just about every episode.
Valid point, although Our Noble Hero can be covered this way: There have been
several times when we have seen Duncan doing kata/meditation after a
Quickening. Given his martial arts focus, it would be a small leap to assume
he routinely meditates after a Q to center himself -- to sort out what he
wants to keep near the surface, and what he wants to bury or completely
discard. Since he has had 400 years of practice, he may even be able to do
some of that _during_ the Q; there are times when he looks like he's trying to
reject it.
Now -- did he pass that on to his student, or was Richie deliberately letting
his headhunting escalate his attitude problem?
> And, who really wants to see, say, Kristin's fashion sense come out in
> Methos?
Not me, but in 5,000 years, the ROG has probably developed his own method(s)
of sorting thru a Q.
Maybe Garrick was bonkers because he _didn't_.
So who else have we followed thru several Q's? Connor?
- Helva
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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 19:05:33 -0400
From: Wendy Tillis <immortals_incorporated@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Highlander Toon Movie In Development (Film In 2006)
>> Maybe this is the infamous "Highlander:The Source" we've heard about.
>> Or....maybe it is the elusive "Highlander:Archangel" .
John:
>Nope. Archangel was very much a live-action project. The annoying thing
>there was that it was all ready to go. All it needed for acting contracts
>to be signed was a confirmed start-date and then it missed the opening it had.
>Now the slots are filled for the next year. It's in limbo, but not
>automatically dead.
Did they actually have confirmed funding and just didn't get everything dotted and crossed in time to grab a production window? Or did they miss the window while still waiting for funding? If they had funding, will it still be there next year? Or does the money end up drifting away to someone with a script, a cast and a start-date?
> The Source, for which I read the most up to date
>script, is very different from the proposed animated movie.
How up to date is the script and how much can you tell us about it?
Wendy(Please don't answer with "buy the magazine"<g>)
Immortals Inc.
immortals_incorporated@cox.net
"Weasels for Eternity"
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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 00:42:39 +0100
From: "a.j.mosby" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Highlander Toon Movie In Development (Film In 2006)
> Did they actually have confirmed funding and just didn't get everything
> dotted and crossed in time to grab a production window? Or did they miss
> the window while still waiting for funding? If they had funding, will it
> still be there next year? Or does the money end up drifting away to
> someone with a script, a cast and a start-date?
My understanding of the situation was that most of the funding was there and
the final part was contingent on a specific start date. When that start date
couldn't be made I'm not sure what happened specifically to the budget per
se. Certainly - as is the often the case in film/tv making - there's no
guarantee that all the money that was there before will be there at a later
date. However everyone who was connected with it liked David's script.
> How up to date is the script and how much can you tell us about it?
Wendy(Please don't answer with "buy the magazine"<g>)
Well, a lot of it WAS in the magazines. ;) Let's see (from memory)...after
a very interesting robbery (in which Methos particpates in one version) it
becomes obvious that there is one very dangerous Immortal taking heads and
hunting specific Immortals to take their heads. Or are they? The story sees
a band of Immortals who would normally be after each other's heads band
together to find a secret linked to this mysterious hunter and *part* of the
secret of their immortality. The last script I saw (one of four) was
apparently written by Peter Briggs and though I wasn't a huge fan of the
over-all concept of the story, it's tons better than the the versions he
inherited. The first, by Joel Soisson (who I now think is taking another
pass at it) guest-starred Duncan living in an out-of-the-way gas station,
chain-smoking and drinkign and his sole companion... a monkey called Connor.
Kinda makes Endgame look like Shakespeare. At least Briggs' version
acknowleged certain TV continuity and even had a few subtle nods to the
first film.
John
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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 20:40:08 EDT
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Re: Highlander Toon Movie In Development (Film In 2006)
In a message dated 9/4/2004 6:51:56 PM Central Daylight Time,
a.j.mosby@btinternet.com writes:
Duncan living in an out-of-the-way gas station,
chain-smoking and drinkign and his sole companion... a monkey called Connor.
I think I'll be sick now.
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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 10:52:33 +1000
From: Carmel Macpherson <tunnack@webone.com.au>
Subject: HLWW Auc#20 up and running
Hi all
If you go to the following URL you will find a range of assorted goodies to
tempt and delight and in so doing help ensure our guests get to fly instead
of paddle to Australia with a threadbare HLWW flag as their only sail :-)
http://www.highlanderworldwide.com/auctions/auc20.shtml
1 Touching Evil Emmy Consideration DVD
Signed by Peter
2 Photo of Adrian and Elizabeth
Signed by Adrian and Elizabeth
3 Highlander Script - Mortal Sins
Signed by Adrian
4 Peter's Business card from Catwoman
Signed by Peter
5 Poster from Charity Concert by Jim
Signed by Jim
6 Photo from Methuselah's Gift
Signed by Adrian, Peter and Elizabeth
7 Peter's Crew Jacket from Catwoman
Signed by Peter
8 Highlander Script - Armageddon
Signed by Adrian, Peter, Elizabeth, David Abramowitz, James Horan, F Braun
McAsh, Roger Bellon, Don Paonessa
9 DVD of Season 1 of Bliss
To be signed by Peter
10 L.A. Concert Photo of Elizabeth
Signed by Elizabeth
11 From an Immortal Library - One off Proof cover of 'Measure of A Man'
Signed by Adrian
12 Tibet Beer Bottle
Signed by Methos
13 Touching Evil Script
Signed by Peter
14 L.A. Concert Photo
Signed by Peter and Elizabeth
15 Peter 'Conversations 2'DVD
Signed by Peter
16 Miss America Magazine
Signed by Elizabeth
17 David Abramowitz Photo
Signed by David Abramowitz
18 Catwoman Call Sheet
Signed by Peter
19 Cast and Crew Photo
Signed by Adrian, Peter & Elizabeth
20 Joe Dawson Commemorative Plate
Signed by Jim
Kind regards
@ Carmel Macpherson
<<<@{}=================>>>
@ President, HLWW
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France Tour: 2 Oct - 10 Oct 2004
HLWW6: 29 April - 1 May, 2005. Sydney.
http://www.highlanderworldwide.com
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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 15:24:47 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Highlander Toon Movie In Development (Film In 2006)
John regurgitates re: The Source & its "plot"--
>>>a very interesting robbery (in which Methos particpates in one version)
it
becomes obvious that there is one very dangerous Immortal taking heads and
hunting specific Immortals to take their heads. Or are they? The story sees
a band of Immortals who would normally be after each other's heads band
together to find a secret linked to this mysterious hunter and *part* of the
secret of their immortality. The last script I saw (one of four) was
apparently written by Peter Briggs and though I wasn't a huge fan of the
over-all concept of the story, it's tons better than the the versions he
inherited. The first, by Joel Soisson (who I now think is taking another
pass at it) guest-starred Duncan living in an out-of-the-way gas station,
chain-smoking and drinkign and his sole companion... a monkey called
Connor.>>>
Ah--clearly, another "gift to the fans" in the making.
Nina (how does an actor guest-star in a _film_?)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 02:41:30 +0100
From: "a.j.mosby" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Highlander Toon Movie In Development (Film In 2006)
> Nina (how does an actor guest-star in a _film_?)
> mac.westie@verizon.net
He appears in one or two scenes only. (Later scripts have him as a main
protaganist)
John
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