There are 24 messages totalling 811 lines in this issue. Topics in this special issue: 1. TNN = Spike TV (6) 2. Mac's Barge (6) 3. Adrian Paul DVDs 4. Pharoah's Daughter (4) 5. Immortal TV was Re: TNN = Spike TV 6. Immortal TV (2) 7. safe Immie sex (was--Re: Mac's Barge) (4) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 22:15:59 EDT From: Kln73@aol.com Subject: Re: TNN = Spike TV <<> Ok, show of hands. When you first heard of "Spike TV", was your first > thought: > > a. my favorite hunky blond vampire's getting his own network? (All > Spike, all the time. Special Shirtles Saturdays!) > > b. filmmaker Spike Lee is getting his own network? > > c. that's a really dumb name for a network? > > d. huh? > > Pat L.>> I definitely have to go with A, although C and D were close seconds. I never even gave Spike Lee a thought--but that's not unusual for me. :) Kristi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 19:46:55 -0700 From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: TNN = Spike TV Yes, with 4 hours of Passions every weekday, > Manchester United games every weekend, Harmony's Beauty Tips (BTW whatever happened to Harmony?), and Spike and Richie's motorcycle racing tips. Hm....what about Dark Shadows, Forever Knight and Port Charles? LOL couldn't resist. > > I had to laugh at these. The Richie one got me wondering about titles for other HL character's shows....how about Fencing with Duncan.....Firsthand History: Methos Tells it Like it *Really* Was...Magic With Cassandra... OK, I'm blank. Anybody got any more? Mel, who thinks Buffy's one true love always and forever was ANGEL! Mel ===== The trouble with immortality is that it tends to go on forever-Herb Cain FK:NickNatPacker, Knight of the Cross,Knightie, Natpacker/Highlander:Duncan Flag-Waver/Due South Fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 22:57:00 -0400 From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net> Subject: Re: TNN = Spike TV At 07:38 PM 6/6/2003, MacWestie wrote: >Nina (Spike Lee just needed some press, & I guess he doesn't care that this >makes him look silly, in a "Spike who?" sense.) Ya got that right. Like someone else said, I never gave him a thought until I heard about this lawsuit. It really makes him look stupid. Of course... naming a tv network Spike is pretty stupid too IMO. :-) -- Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 18:57:51 -1000 From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Mac's Barge Per Donna Lettow on HL Forum way back in 1999-- "Barges: Season one, the barge was only rented for exteriors. The entire "barge" interior was located on a soundstage nowhere near the river. Seasons two-six, both interiors and exteriors were shot on an actual barge, which meant that a barge had to be rented and moved to that location near Notre Dame where barges don't usually moor for all the days of barge filming. After a while, it got harder to get the original rental barge all the time it was needed, and another barge was found and was used when the first barge was unavailable. You'll have to ask Ken Gord about the signage. Nobile was the sign on the original barge, Amadeus the other one. These signs were not put there by production. " Nina (& those damned signs show up quite clearly in the stock shots used throughout the series, all jumbled up; it's like the barge has an identity crisis) mac.westie@verizon.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 00:20:04 -0700 From: Pat Lawson <plawson@webleyweb.com> Subject: Re: TNN = Spike TV you wrote: >But, TNN probably should have just chosen "Stud TV" instead. A horse network? I love horses, but we've already got Animal Planet & RFD TV. OTOH, "Stud TV" might have made me thing of my favorite blond vampire anyway. Why yes, that is shallow. So? Pat L. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 00:32:02 -0700 From: Pat Lawson <plawson@webleyweb.com> Subject: Re: Adrian Paul DVDs you wrote: >n a message dated 6/6/2003 4:37:38 PM US Eastern Standard Time, >plawson@webleyweb.com writes: > > > do you dislike the genre or is it a bad movie? > > > >I dislike the genre but also felt this was a bad movie. There is a scene in >it that most have said is very like a "quickening" and with a sword no less. >Some felt it was a nod to HL fans. I thought it was....embarrassing. Thanks Rottie. Pat L. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 08:48:31 EDT From: Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@aol.com> Subject: Re: TNN = Spike TV In a message dated 6/6/2003 5:37:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, plawson@webleyweb.com writes: > Ok, show of hands. When you first heard of "Spike TV", was your first > thought: > > a. my favorite hunky blond vampire's getting his own network? (All > Spike, all the time. Special Shirtles Saturdays!) > That was mine! Robin robinchristine79@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 08:56:39 EDT From: Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@aol.com> Subject: Re: Pharoah's Daughter In a message dated 6/6/2003 7:23:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com writes: > Mel, who must be watching too much Forever Knight > because she kept wondering whether General Constintin > (sp?) had ever met a General Lucien > LaCroix....(interesting fic possibilites, eh Robin? hehe) > Hey, I agree. Also, wasn't there a Don Constantine on FK? And on the fan fic, I would post, but it seems my muse has ran away. I can't get a single sentence out anymore. :( Robin robinchristine79@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 08:59:11 EDT From: Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@aol.com> Subject: Re: Mac's Barge In a message dated 6/6/2003 7:41:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com writes: > Mel, who thinks that Mac must've had something of a > hard time coming back there in Unholy Alliance, since > it'd only been, what, several months, in HL time since > the events in Darkness (I refuse to say it directly! > But I will say this: I miss Tessa!) > I miss her ,too. I hate that they had to kill her off. To me, the second season episodes are just hard to sit through. Robin robinchristine79@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 15:32:44 +0200 From: T'Mar <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za> Subject: Re: Pharoah's Daughter Robin wrote: >Hey, I agree. Also, wasn't there a Don Constantine on FK? Yes; it was in the episode "Father's Day". Haven't seen the actor who played the old don in much else, but the guy who played him as a young man was an evil Immortal in HL - in "Reluctant Heroes", I think. - Marina. \\ "Good girls go to heaven. ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // // Bad girls go to Smallville." || R I C H I E >> \\ \\ - 'Sorority Boys' wallpaper ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // //=======tmar@sifl.iid.co.za========|| \\ \\=======Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=======// "We all have our little faults. Mine's in California!" - Lex Luthor; Superman The Movie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 06:37:45 -0700 From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Mac's Barge Yeah, and as soon as that happened, it developed into "Who's going to end up in Mac's bed next time?" If he wasn't doing it in the flashbacks, he was doing it in the present-day part of the storyline. I don't have quite as much of a problem with people like Annie and Amanda, though I'm not overly fond of Amanda, who he at least had histories with, but like the annoying reporter in Warmonger, and the one in yesterday's ep, no. It just kinda seemes to me he's letting the wrong organ do the thinking sometimes if you know what I mean. He could at least get to know them better first before he jumps into bed so quick. But, I know it won't be long before Anne comes into the picture, and from what I've read he was sort of regular at times with her...on and 0ff...so maybe he'll cool it a bit. Mel (just MHO...not trying to create an argument or anything) > > > > I miss her ,too. I hate that they had to kill her > off. To me, the second > season episodes are just hard to sit through. > > Robin > robinchristine79@aol.com ===== The trouble with immortality is that it tends to go on forever-Herb Cain FK:NickNatPacker, Knight of the Cross,Knightie, Natpacker/Highlander:Duncan Flag-Waver/Due South Fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 11:41:04 EDT From: Dawn Lehman <USTADAWN@aol.com> Subject: Re: TNN = Spike TV In a message dated 6/6/2003 10:49:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com writes: > >I had to laugh at these. The Richie one got me > wondering about titles for other HL character's > shows....how about > Fencing with Duncan..... Firsthand > History: Methos Tells it Like it *Really* Was... Magic > With Cassandra... > > > OK, I'm blank. Anybody got any more? > > How about: 1. Joe's Memoirs 2. Life Styles of the Rich and Headless.. (ugh...I know, I know, but couldn't resist) 3. At Home With Duncan "Steward" 4. Duncan the Immortal Slayer 5. This Old House with "Methos" Vila 6. The House of Joe (e.g. The House of Blues) 7. Amanda's House of Style 8. Decorating with Duncan 9. The Adam Pierson Show 10. The Immortal Lives... 11. As Time Goes By... 12. Dances with Kronos 13. A Tale of Two Immortals.... Geesh, I could go on and on and on but I'm laughing too hard so I'd better stop! Sleep deprivation I guess... anyway.....someone else can take the batton for a little while.... USTADAWN ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 09:29:28 -0700 From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com> Subject: Immortal TV was Re: TNN = Spike TV OK now my brain's working. 1.This Old Barge (with Duncan, spinoff of This Old House) 2.Tales of the Four Horsemen 3.A Duncan soap-All My Lovers (or One (Immortal)Life to Live....As The Sword Cuts? The Old and the Beautiful? ROFL Horton's Hunting Tips (I don't like him either, but I couldn't help it) 4. Duncan and Fitz's Love Life Improvement Tips(Latenight of course) 5.Duncan, Methos, Amanda and Connor could do their own version of Antiques Roadshow LOL. Sort of. 6. Beer Tasting With Methos 7. or they could all team to to do "How to Survive Just About Anything"...LOL. (Even Horton. I mean the guy just keeps going and going and going.....Are we sure he's not the Energizer Bunny? LOL) "A TV History of Bladed Weapons?" Somebody stop me LOL Mel BTW, Are we allowed to post HL jokes here? I got inspired by some virus humor pages and ended up with some HL virus humor. OK to post it? Some are probably a bit lame, but there's some funny ones in there too. > > Geesh, I could go on and on and on but I'm laughing > too hard so I'd better > stop! Sleep deprivation I guess... > anyway.....someone else can take the batton > for a little while.... > > USTADAWN ===== The trouble with immortality is that it tends to go on forever-Herb Cain FK:NickNatPacker, Knight of the Cross,Knightie, Natpacker/Highlander:Duncan Flag-Waver/Due South Fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 13:37:51 EDT From: Dawn Lehman <USTADAWN@aol.com> Subject: Re: Immortal TV OK, here's some more... 1. Forever Young 2. The Young and the Restless Immortal 3. Elimidate....(Bring your own sword) 4. Duncan's Favorite Home Videos (oooooo la la) 5. Cooking with Fitz 6. Daily Reflections with Darius :( - me sniffling 7. The Quickening and the Dead 8. P.A.R.I.S Blue (e.g. NYPD Blue) this one's "iffy" 9. C.S.I (Cranky, Sagacious, Immortal) Guess who this is? 10. Law and Order - The Immortal Way 11. My Life with No Kids (My Wife and Kids) 12. According to Methos; According to Duncan; According to Joe; According to Amanda; According to Fitz; According to Richie .............Take your pick! 13. Alias - (Who Am I Today?) The Different Lives of the Immortals Time for a coffee break!................. Ciao ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 13:39:42 EDT From: Dawn Lehman <USTADAWN@aol.com> Subject: Re: Immortal TV Oh Yeah....... Survivor! Need I say anything else? he. he. he. he. USTADAWN ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 07:48:45 -1000 From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net> Subject: safe Immie sex (was--Re: Mac's Barge) > "Who's going to end up in Mac's bed next time?" Sex sells, from the producers' standpoint. There were minuses, but a big plus of AV leaving the show was that it freed up DM's libido in present day. And many of the romantic/love-making scenes of H:TS are spectacular; the one in Pharaoh's Daughter isn't at all shabby. But, that aside, exactly why _shouldn't_ DM sleep w/ whatever woman he pleased? As long as they were adults, it was consensual, etc., which was the case. No chance of pregnancy or STD's--it doesn't get much safer than sex w/ an Immie. (As long as one stays away from the sword stashed under the bed.) > But, I know it > won't be long before Anne comes into the picture You say that like it's a _good_ thing.... Nina (in my TV listings today, HL 2 gets 1.5 stars, but HL:EG gets just one star...oh, the shame....) mac.westie@verizon.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:07:14 EDT From: Robin Tidwell <Robinchristine79@aol.com> Subject: Re: Mac's Barge In a message dated 6/7/2003 9:38:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com writes: > Yeah, and as soon as that happened, it developed into > "Who's going to end up in Mac's bed next time?" That's what I thought. Especially when he's sleeping with eight hundred different people. And they had him sleeping with someone the next episode after she died. Robin robinchristine79@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 11:10:46 -0700 From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: safe Immie sex (was--Re: Mac's Barge) Mnay of the love scenes of H:TS > are spectacular; the one > in Pharaoh's Daughter isn't at all shabby. True, and there can never be enough scenes of DM/AP without clothes.....hehe > > But, that aside, exactly why _shouldn't_ DM sleep w/ > whatever woman he > pleased? As long as they were adults, it was > consensual, etc., which was > the case. No chance of pregnancy or STD's--it > doesn't get much safer than > sex w/ an Immie. True. Very true. (As long as one stays away from > the sword stashed under > the bed.) Yeah, that and two other things: 1. Jealous ex-lovers, especially immortal ones since they carry swords 2.Renegade Watchers-they can really put a cramp in things. And we already know from yesterday they're not above break-ins. > > > But, I know it > > won't be long before Anne comes into the picture > You say that like it's a _good_ thing.... I can't judge since I haven't seen her yet. But, just out of curiosity, what don't you like about her? It'll give me some stuff to look for when the time comes LOL. > > Nina (in my TV listings today, HL 2 gets 1.5 stars, > but HL:EG gets just one > star...oh, the shame....) > mac.westie@verizon.net Yeah, The Sickening was worse than EndShame though neither was particularly outstanding. And at least Endgame has that lovely, hot Duncan love scene...YUMMY! Mel ===== The trouble with immortality is that it tends to go on forever-Herb Cain FK:NickNatPacker, Knight of the Cross,Knightie, Natpacker/Highlander:Duncan Flag-Waver/Due South Fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 17:28:36 -0400 From: jjswbt@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Mac's Barge Mel said: >> Yeah, and as soon as that happened, it developed into >> "Who's going to end up in Mac's bed next time?" Robin: >That's what I thought. Especially when he's sleeping with eight hundred >different people. I expect that Immortals have little enough happiness in their lives that they take it where they can. A little harmless sex between two ships that pass in the night..who cares? Duncan was never shown to be leading on any of these one-night-stands. They approached it as a casual thing, he did too. Sometimes it was just sex, sometimes it was comfort, sometimes it was just easier then saying no" <eg>. He was healthy, male and unattached. - not to mention tall dark and handsome -and rich..who *wouldn't* sleep with him? >And they had him sleeping with someone the next episode >after she died. It seemed pretty clear to me that he slept with Annie because he and she both were in so much pain that they needed to hold onto something just to get through a few more hours. The ones they loved were dead - they needed to feel alive. And...it wasn't as if Duncan just went out and picked up some woman in a bar. He knew Annie. Plus...he is 400 years old. This isn't the first lover he's lost. While he never forgets them, while it still hurts, he is aware that life goes on and the best (maybe the only) way to survive it emotionally is to throw yourself back onto the horse. (Not that I'm calling Annie a horse.)(Not exactly) Mel: >> > But, I know it >> > won't be long before Anne comes into the picture Nina: >> You say that like it's a _good_ thing.... Mel: >I can't judge since I haven't seen her yet. But, just >out of curiosity, what don't you like about her? It'll >give me some stuff to look for when the time comes >LOL. No, no no! Let's not color your view of Anne before you even see her. Let's just say that fan opinion of Anne and her relationship with Duncan is split. You should make up your own mind about her and then we'll talk about it. Wendy(I thought we needed *more* headboard rattling, not less) Fairy Killer jjswbt@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~jjswbt/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 17:41:12 -0400 From: jjswbt@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Pharoah's Daughter Mel: >The one thing I found unrealistic about this ep was >Nefertiri coming out of the sarcophagus speaking >perfect English, a language that didn't come into >extance until long, long after she was buried. Here' the problem. Do you speak ancient Egyptian? Well, neither does the actress playing Nefertiri. They could have had her speak some fake Egyptian-sounding gibberish and put subtitles on the screen for the whole hour.- would that have been better? In the interest of rationalization, let's say that she has a babel fish in her ear. Or..that she wasn't 100% dead and had picked it up from voices she heard while still in the sarcophagus. Or, that she and Duncan were actually speaking Latin but we *heard* English. >It'd >have been more believable if it'd been set later on, >because then one of the older Immies like Methos or >Amanda (Latin was still the common language even 1000 >years ago...she'd probably have some knowelege of >it)could've acted as an interpreter. <eg> So...in Season 2 they should have known that in Season 3 they were going to introduce a character named Methos who could have been used to translate? And that still wouldn't have fixed the issue of listening to characters speak a foreign language all episode. We don't see Duncan speak French most of the time he is in France- one just has to assume that he *does* speak French and that we *hear* English. >And just how would Mac get that dead Watcher off his >barge without being seen? Even at night, he'd run the >risk of being seen carting it off....unless it was put >in something, or Joe and company have some other way >we don't know about.... You take a few rocks out of the barge's ballast and tie them to the dead guy and toss him over the side. Or you fold him into a big duffel bag and carry him to the car. Maybe he dressed the Watcher in black, painted his face white, and then just carried him out. What's one more apparently drunken mime in Paris? No one would look twice. Wendy(Maurice was more acceptable in this one.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 16:07:43 -0700 From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Mac's Barge > > >And they had him sleeping with someone the next > episode > >after she died. > >I agree with you on that one....didn't really have much of a problem with Annie. Mel It seemed pretty clear to me that he slept with > Annie because he and she both were in so much pain > that they needed to hold onto something just to get > through a few more hours. The ones they loved were > dead - they needed to feel alive. And...it wasn't as > if Duncan just went out and picked up some woman in > a bar. He knew Annie. Plus...he is 400 years old. > This isn't the first lover he's lost. While he never > forgets them, while it still hurts, he is aware that > life goes on and the best (maybe the only) way to > survive it emotionally is to throw yourself back > onto the horse. (Not that I'm calling Annie a > horse.)(Not exactly) > ===== The trouble with immortality is that it tends to go on forever-Herb Cain FK:NickNatPacker, Knight of the Cross,Knightie, Natpacker/Highlander:Duncan Flag-Waver/Due South Fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 16:14:20 -0700 From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Pharoah's Daughter I think I was kinda thinking too fast there last night. Sometimes I just think of it that way too. That we're just hearing English so we can understand them. And yes, subtitles do get annoying after a while. I haven't seen a lot of material with them, but they were used on occasion in Forever Knight, and having them on the screen all hour wouldn't be practical. Mel ===== The trouble with immortality is that it tends to go on forever-Herb Cain FK:NickNatPacker, Knight of the Cross,Knightie, Natpacker/Highlander:Duncan Flag-Waver/Due South Fan/Tracker Fan/Angel Fan/Port Charles Fan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 14:20:19 -1000 From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net> Subject: Re: safe Immie sex (was--Re: Mac's Barge) follow along .... Mel-- > > > But, I know it > > > won't be long before Anne comes into the picture me-- > > You say that like it's a _good_ thing.... Mel-- > I can't judge since I haven't seen her yet. But, just > out of curiosity, what don't you like about her? It'll > give me some stuff to look for when the time comes > LOL. That would be...wrong. Just keep in mind that Anne is a supposedly respected & skilled doctor. Keep in mind that TPTB have said she was their stab at a professional woman & they couldn't understand the ...mixed... reception female fans--many of whom are professional women--gave her. Watch Anne's clothing & demeanor. Watch how she handles her patients & her friends; watch her personal & professional lives overlap. Watch decisions she makes, then unmakes, then changes course on. Watch the consequences. In the end, decide if DM was better/happier for knowing her. It seemed to me that in season 3, DM wanted to settle down, after the repeated casual flings of season 2. (Or--the writers had decided DM should settle down for a bit in season 3). For DM, Anne was handy, just not right. (For the writers, Anne was a mess.) Nina (try NOT to think "chipmunk" when Anne is onscreen) mac.westie@verizon.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 21:40:16 -0400 From: Becky Doland <becky@beckyjo.com> Subject: Re: safe Immie sex (was--Re: Mac's Barge) > > Nina (try NOT to think "chipmunk" when Anne is onscreen) Nope, can't be done, I've tried. ~ Becky *************************************************** BUFFY: You know, one of these days I'm just going to put you two in a room and let you wrastle it out. SPIKE: No problem at this end. BUFFY: There could be oil of some kind involved. ------------------------------ End of HIGHLA-L Digest - 6 Jun 2003 to 7 Jun 2003 - Special issue (#2003-103) *****************************************************************************