HIGHLA-L Digest - 15 May 2003 to 16 May 2003 (#2003-78)
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Topics of the day:
1. Bi-Monthly Reminder
2. The Hunters (or maybe it should be ' Here come the Watchers') (5)
3. Studies in Light (3)
4. Highlander Moment
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Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 23:50:01 -0500
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Subject: Bi-Monthly Reminder
(updated 8/1/00) HIGHLA-L Bi-Monthly Reminders
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 06:05:01 -0700
From: Stephen Bryce <sibryce@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The Hunters (or maybe it should be ' Here come the Watchers')
> The fade in chord in the music (using a choir patch
> no less) and the camera focusing in on a statue of
an
> angel is representing good Mac?
This isn't the time or the place for a debate on how
divine forces might work through others, so I'll just
move on. <g>
> Again, it's been awhile, but that scene stood out to
> me. I have to see it again to see if my memory
serves
> here, but that is what I remember. That seems
higher
> than inner turmoil to me.
Ohhh... I honestly don't remember any of that. I
guess we'll have to put this debate on hold until TNN
plays that one (which will probably be in at least a
couple of months), so I can "fight fairly".
Stephen
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 07:09:40 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Studies in Light
I thought this one had some irony, knowing what
happened a couple eps later. I couldn't keep from
commenting about the stuff like what if Richie was
immortal and about Mac watching Tessa grow old...not
so bad first run, but it's interesting watching it
knowing what we do about the future.
I liked the thread about Mac and his former
lover...kind of touching. And it answered a question
I'd been pondering...Tessa *was* the only one Mac ever
told about his immortality.
Anyone else got any comments?
Mel, who's waiting impatienty for today's ep,
Turnabout, and GWD's guest spot
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 10:39:51 -0700
From: Becky Doland <becky@beckyjo.com>
Subject: Re: Studies in Light
I really like this episode and all it's multiple
portrayals of light and dark. One of it's strongest
parts - IMHO - is Duncan finally telling Linda that
it's really him. I always thought Adrian showed
emotion very well, and this is a good example.
::sniff::
One thing that always bothered me though is the scene
of Greg breaking into and trashing the exhibit.
Something like that *should* have set off alarms,
brought security running, drawn a wee bit of notice
from the authorities. Yes, I know....HL police are all
dimwits, but it still irks me.
Becky
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:44:35 -0400
From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: The Hunters (or maybe it should be ' Here come the Watchers')
At 06:05 AM 05/16/2003 -0700, Stephen Bryce wrote:
> > Again, it's been awhile, but that scene stood out to
> > me. I have to see it again to see if my memory
>serves
> > here, but that is what I remember. That seems
>higher
> > than inner turmoil to me.
>
>Ohhh... I honestly don't remember any of that. I
>guess we'll have to put this debate on hold until TNN
>plays that one (which will probably be in at least a
>couple of months), so I can "fight fairly".
What the heck... I'll jump in and muddy the waters for ya. :-)
It's been quite awhile since I've seen this one also, but I remember having
the feeling/impression that Duncan was struggling within himself and that
it was his "good" side that stopped him from killing Methos in that church,
not any form of divine intervention.
At least that's how I saw it.
-- Sandy
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 10:35:47 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Studies in Light
Best time about this ep is near the end, when DM kicks the sword up w/ his
boot--way cool. His crying at the end is OK, too.
Mel--
> And it answered a question
> I'd been pondering...Tessa *was* the only one Mac ever
> told about his immortality.
Well, she's the 1st lover (far as we know) that he fessed up to about
immortality, up to that time. But then he told Anne, unfortunately.
(Surely staying out of Seacouver for a few decades would have been less
painful.)
He told/had to tell several other mortals, though. Richie (too bad we didn't
get to hear it), Charlie/Brothers in Arms, Hideo Koto/Samurai FB, Rev.
Bell/Little Tin God, young Bernard/Mortal Sins FB (well, the kid saw him
revive, so he had little choice), old Georges Dalou/Mortal Sins, & Father
Andre/Counterfeit (sarcastically, in a rather odd ad lib).
Nina (reminded of HL trivia...so, which lover did DM kill???)
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:37:00 EDT
From: Brian Smith <ShadowPK@aol.com>
Subject: Re: The Hunters (or maybe it should be ' Here come the Watchers')
In a message dated 5/16/03 9:07:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sibryce@yahoo.com writes:
> >The fade in chord in the music (using a choir patch
> >no less) and the camera focusing in on a statue of
> an
> >angel is representing good Mac?
>
> This isn't the time or the place for a debate on how
> divine forces might work through others, so I'll just
> move on. <g>
>
lol
> >Again, it's been awhile, but that scene stood out to
>
> >me. I have to see it again to see if my memory
> serves
> >here, but that is what I remember. That seems
> higher
> >than inner turmoil to me.
>
> Ohhh... I honestly don't remember any of that. I
> guess we'll have to put this debate on hold until TNN
> plays that one (which will probably be in at least a
> couple of months), so I can "fight fairly".
>
> Stephen
>
Agreed! This list isn't dead after all! :) We'll see then, or I'll see
earlier if I find the ep on Kazaa. (since most of my original video tapes of
seasons 3-6 have vanished)
Bri
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:37:35 -0700
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Highlander Moment
I was walking close to my apartment, and noticed a
sign I'd passed by lots of times but never really took
note of. It said:
Horton Insurance.
I couldn't help laughing.
Then on the way back, I noticed an old model Mercedes
convertible that bore a striking resemblence to the
one Tessa drove in the series...it was even the same
color,though I couldn't say if the year was the
same...sitting out in front of the place. You can
probably imagine the mental pictures and thoughts I
got seeing it LOL.
Mel
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 17:15:03 -0400
From: KLZ3 <kzimmerman3@cox.net>
Subject: Re: The Hunters (or maybe it should be ' Here come the Watchers')
> Other than that, he was a watcher.
>
Darius was an immie. Methos was a watcher, watching himself.
ZK
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Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 17:15:20 -0700
From: Pat Lawson <plawson@webleyweb.com>
Subject: Re: The Hunters (or maybe it should be ' Here come the Watchers')
ZK wrote:
> > Other than that, he was a watcher.
> >
>Darius was an immie.
True. I wasn't suggesting he was a tattoo wearing Watcher, but rather a
watcher, an observer of life and not a participant.
This is what prompted my comment.
Nina earlier:
>And the whole Watchers-not-getting-involved was irksome. So, Watchers
>watch, over & over, the murder of innocents & other mayhem, keeping quiet so
>that they can keep a record of Immie doings.
Darius' actions were pretty much the same, albeit driven by different
motives. Of course he didn't keep records, as far as we know anyway. He
did watch, over & over, "the murder of innocents & other mayhem". He
interfered only to the extent of trying to talk a relative handful of
people, immies & mortals, into changing their ways. Practically
speaking, his actions were little different from the Watchers. The
question becomes were they morally different?
So we have 2 some-what related questions:
Were the Watchers right to "observe & never interfere"?
Was Darius more/less right than the Watchers? (Or moral if you prefer
that term) Why?
Pat
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