HIGHLA-L Digest - 4 Sep 2002 to 5 Sep 2002 - Special issue (#2002-133)
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Topics in this special issue:
1. `Merlin: The Return' video fs
2. Highlander 5? (9)
3. Copywrong/was: Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?") (2)
4. D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?") (6)
5. Heavens above! - was Highlander 5
6. Highlander 5 (3)
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:00:15 -0400
From: Heidi <heidi@apocalypse.org>
Subject: `Merlin: The Return' video fs
Is anyone still looking for the video of `Merlin- The Return'?
While it was nice seeing AP as Lancelot it's unlikely I'll want to
watch it again so I figured someone over here may be interested
in buying it. Since I got it on sale I'm only looking to get $5
(plus shipping) for it. (I don't know how much shipping will
be offhand though.) I'm in the US so because of the currency
difference need to sell it to someone also in the US. If you're
interested drop me, not the list, a note.
=}{=
(heidi@apocalypse.org)
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 00:27:09 -0400
From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Highlander 5?
At 12:52 PM 09/04/02, Prodipto Roy wrote:
>First, we are excited to announce that the rumors are true. The story
>continues as the fifth motion picture is slated to begin filming early
>in 2003.
Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.
-- Sandy (un-freakin-believable)
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 00:34:03 EDT
From: Highlandmg@aol.com
Subject: Re: Highlander 5?
Hey
anything Highlander I am excited
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:19:03 -0700
From: "R. Shelton" <rshelton2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Copywrong/was: Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?")
At 5:27 PM -0400 9/4/02, KLZ wrote:
>Woo-hoo! Gear up the copywrong wars! Drag out the List
>Methusalahs! Alert the lurkers!
On alert here! <g>
>Is that on the schedule for thismonth, btw?
>
>::::: hauling sandbags to front of porch and installing Liser's
>Yakapult :::::
ROTFLMAO!
Rachel
--
Rachel Shelton *
rshelton2@earthlink.net
@}->->->-
"A book is like a garden carried in the pocket." --Chinese proverb
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:24:48 -0700
From: "R. Shelton" <rshelton2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Highlander 5?
At 12:27 AM -0400 9/5/02, Sandy Fields wrote:
>>At 12:52 PM 09/04/02, Prodipto Roy wrote:
>>
>First, we are excited to announce that the rumors are true. The story
>continues as the fifth motion picture is slated to begin filming early
>in 2003.
>
>Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.
>
>-- Sandy (un-freakin-believable)
GMTA!
At 12:34 AM -0400 9/5/02, Highlandmg@aol.com wrote:
>Hey anything Highlander I am excited
Well. . . . they had their big chance with Endgame and look where
that led. <sigh> A whole 'nother movie worries me, and I've been a
fan since the first movie in '86. JMHO.
Rachel (rounding up the Dead Horses)
--
Rachel Shelton *
rshelton2@earthlink.net
@}->->->-
"Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a
mistake when you make it again." -- F. P. Jones
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 20:13:58 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?")
Stephen--
> There are some good points in here, I'll admit.
Thanks. Did I miss where you discuss them?
> but at least two of
> the films have been altered prior to release without
> their involvement, and have subsequently been far
> inferior to the versions they DID forsee.
Mighty convenient hindsight, isn't it? That way, they get to make fans buy
theater tickets AND buy their Producers' Cuts. Right BEFORE Endgame came
out in theaters, DPP called it their gift to the fans & predicted we'd LOVE
it. And, DPP's eventual version of Endgame had just as much wrong w/ it as
the theater release did--some different goofs but still the major big
problems & an overall crappy product despite DPP having total control & all
the time in the world to fix it.
me before--
> > And, did DPP
> > grant you permission to publicly promote something
> > Highlander as your own
Stephen--
> That's not really what I do, with my fan-fic. My
> stories take place in an entirely original setting,
> and with new characters, so calling THOSE STORIES my
> own work is accurate.
Nope--not if you are setting them in the HL universe w/ all its rules &
familiarity to HL fans. If your stories _could_ stand alone, I guess you'd
set them in a fictional universe of your own creation.
>>>In the biline, I always credit
> Gregory Widen for creating "Highlander" in general,
> and my final story also thanked D & P.
I'm sure they'd be touched. But such declarations just admit that you
realize you are taking someone else's intellectual property, altering it, &
using it for your own purposes & gain--monetary or otherwise--w/o permission
or authorization. Other than the fan-fic writer's standard bellow--"But
it's fun & I want to!"
Besides, what I meant by "publicly promote something Highlander as your own"
was not the fan-fic itself but your standard sig line--
Steve Bryce
Author, "Highlander: The Legacy" (fan-fic)
That's how you were signing your posts, until the one I am now responding
to.
Nina
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 20:25:59 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Copywrong/was: Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?")
ZK--
> Woo-hoo! Gear up the copywrong wars! Drag out the List
> Methusalahs! Alert the lurkers! Is that on the schedule for this
> month, btw?
No, but DPP's HL5 bombshell totally screwed the schedule, so ....
I doubt the old list has enough life left in it to do more than belch &
drool a bit, though, even if we started discussing "Cassandra/Doc
Anne--Canadian or just badly Coiffed?" in alternation w/ "Richie--Loyal as a
Dog or Just Plain Dumb?" & "Duncan/Methos--Point that Dirk in MY Direction."
John--
> but specific and lengthy reproduction without permission is illegal
> and just plain annoying.
Which is exactly how I feel about widely disseminated fan-fic.
Nina (who wouldn't mind being proven wrong about the old list, though)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:13:28 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
Subject: Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?")
Nina, are you sure the fanfic discussion is scheduled? I
mean, ZK is all ready, but I'm not doing that again. However,
it looks like some poor newbie (?) took the bait. Don't hurt
him TOO much.
>>Steve Bryce
>>Author, "Highlander: The Legacy" (fan-fic)
>That's how you were signing your posts, until the one I am now responding
>to.
My word, we're allowed to put our fanfic titles in our .sig files?
Why aren't I informed about these things?! (I wonder if I could get
all 118 stories into a few lines if I didn't use spaces??) (Is that
steam I see pouring from Nina's ears?)
- Marina. (At least the list livened up a bit.)
\\ "I'm naming all the stars." ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// "You can't see the stars, love. That's the || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ ceiling. Also, it's day." - Drusilla & Spike ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//=====Marina Bailey====tmar@sifl.iid.co.za=====|| \\
\\==============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie============//
"There is a Daniel Jackson-shaped hole in that show." - My brother,
about the sixth season of Stargate SG-1.
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:14:47 +0100
From: "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Highlander 5?
> Father forgive them, for they know not what they do.
>
> -- Sandy (un-freakin-believable)
Oh, I think they have a preeeeeeeeeeety good idea of exactly what they're
doing ;)
(wonders if the annoucement might, in the future, be reagrded as
fan-fiction? ;)
John
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 02:22:45 -0700
From: "R. Shelton" <rshelton2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Highlander 5?
At 10:14 AM +0100 9/5/02, John Mosby (B) wrote:
>(wonders if the annoucement might, in the future, be reagrded as
>fan-fiction? ;)
Point taken! <weg>
Rachel
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:47:39 +0200
From: Tarryn Zank <Zankt@nu.ac.za>
Subject: Heavens above! - was Highlander 5
I just opened my e-mail at work and started reading the news of the
Highlander 5 movie.
And lo and behold..... bagpipes started playing outside my window!
There was me....ROTFLMAO!!! What timing.
Tarryn
PS Marina - I tried again with the new addy and was rejected again!
I'll have to get ahold of the IT guys sometime, but they probably won't
be bothered because it's not work related. If it's anything urgent, send
me a mail and I'll reply from another address, otherwise wait until I
get ahold of you.
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:19:40 +0200
From: Tarryn Zank <Zankt@nu.ac.za>
Subject: Re: Highlander 5
Should I shake things up a bit more?
This comes from www.tvtomes.com which provides a resource for episode
guides for tv shows. It was on the show home page for Highlander:
February 16, 2002
Another movie is also rumoured to be in development. HIGHLANDER: THE
SOURCE would reportedly deal with a group of Immortals trying to seek
out the mystery of their origin. Christopher Lambert and Adrian Paul
have both allegedly signed on to appear in the film, although a source
at Cinescape Online insists that Paul has denied this rumour. Gregory
Widen, who wrote the screenplay for the original HIGHLANDER film, may be
in talks to write and direct. Widen directed the popular film THE
PROPHECY, starring Christopher Walken and Amanda Plummer.
February 16, 2002
Rumour has it that a third TV series may be in the works. HIGHLANDER:
THE TRINITY would reportedly deal with a trio of Immortals (hence the
title) who are recruited by their mentor to work for a secret government
agency.
*********
And yes, I remember TPTB telling us of a new series at Reunion con at
the end of August 2001 (has it been a year already? sigh) which they
tentatively hinted would be called "HL:Trinity".
If memory serves me, the character played by Eric McCormack was some
sort of federal agent who was pursuing Carl Robinson (Bruce Young).
episode was Manhunt. But I doubt they would involve him. Anybody else
think of immies who were federal agents?
There is no mention at the TV Tomes page as to where this info comes
from, and I do not say that it is true, I just thought it might liven up
the discussion some!! The snippet does not declare anything as fact
either.
Tarryn
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 07:56:51 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?")
I suppose someone is going to have to start a brand new list for HL fans
who've never experienced the previous discussions and topics mentioned. We
wouldn't want to bore or offend those who've seen them before. Heaven help us
if they start to show the series again in the US. Discussing HL on this list
might destroy it.
We can subtitle this one "Highlander-Just Coasting"
Leah
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 06:06:54 -0700
From: Stephen Bryce <sibryce@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?")
> My word, we're allowed to put our fanfic titles in
> our .sig files?
> Why aren't I informed about these things?! (I wonder
> if I could get
> all 118 stories into a few lines if I didn't use
> spaces??) (Is that
> steam I see pouring from Nina's ears?)
Actually, I wrote that in manually, not by using a
.sig file.
BTW, to Nina: you made some good points in your last
post, so I will humbly conceed. From here on in, I
will not sign myself as a fan-fic writer, and I will
simply drop the discussion (unless someone else
chooses to pick it up, but I'm hoping they won't - I
think we've covered everything that needed to be
said).
Stephen Bryce
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:55:12 +0100
From: "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Highlander 5
You know, the basic concept of Highlander:Trinity sounds a solid one -
particularly given the popularity of La Femme Nikita, Alias etc. Certainly
there's room for that in the Highlander universe.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tarryn Zank" <Zankt@nu.ac.za>
To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [HL] Highlander 5
> Should I shake things up a bit more?
>
> This comes from www.tvtomes.com which provides a resource for episode
> guides for tv shows. It was on the show home page for Highlander:
>
> February 16, 2002
>
> Another movie is also rumoured to be in development. HIGHLANDER: THE
> SOURCE would reportedly deal with a group of Immortals trying to seek
> out the mystery of their origin. Christopher Lambert and Adrian Paul
> have both allegedly signed on to appear in the film, although a source
> at Cinescape Online insists that Paul has denied this rumour. Gregory
> Widen, who wrote the screenplay for the original HIGHLANDER film, may be
> in talks to write and direct. Widen directed the popular film THE
> PROPHECY, starring Christopher Walken and Amanda Plummer.
>
> February 16, 2002
>
> Rumour has it that a third TV series may be in the works. HIGHLANDER:
> THE TRINITY would reportedly deal with a trio of Immortals (hence the
> title) who are recruited by their mentor to work for a secret government
> agency.
>
> *********
> And yes, I remember TPTB telling us of a new series at Reunion con at
> the end of August 2001 (has it been a year already? sigh) which they
> tentatively hinted would be called "HL:Trinity".
>
> If memory serves me, the character played by Eric McCormack was some
> sort of federal agent who was pursuing Carl Robinson (Bruce Young).
> episode was Manhunt. But I doubt they would involve him. Anybody else
> think of immies who were federal agents?
>
> There is no mention at the TV Tomes page as to where this info comes
> from, and I do not say that it is true, I just thought it might liven up
> the discussion some!! The snippet does not declare anything as fact
> either.
>
> Tarryn
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:03:42 -0400
From: jjswbt@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Highlander 5
Tarryn wrote:
>February 16, 2002
>
>Rumour has it that a third TV series may be in the works. HIGHLANDER:
>THE TRINITY would reportedly deal with a trio of Immortals (hence the
>title) who are recruited by their mentor to work for a secret government
>agency.
Once upon a time I heard something about..what was it? ...there can be only one? Maybe that was suppose to be "there can be only three"?
Wendy(Alexander Mundy, Sydney Bristow and Maxwell Smart?)
Fairy Killer
jjswbt@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~jjswbt/index.html
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:07:32 -0400
From: jjswbt@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Highlander 5?
I can't reveal my...um...source ..but I have in my possession a working script for the new Highlander 5 movie. I'm sure you'll all want a peek. I understand it times out at 44 minutes, allowing for an easy transfer to late night TV.
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Highlander 5 - The Beginin….the Origi….The Source
:::::A mountaintop in Scotl….a city street in Pari…a city street in New Y…it's a city street in some unnamed city:::modern time
A tall..mediu.. ..a tall man with dark ….blonde...brown hair..A tall man with brown hair is walking down the street. Dunc..Conn…Metho.. Evan stops and gazes unfocusedly around ..feeling the Buzz . He finally spots a beautiful woma ...a tall dark ma…a heavyset bald guy standing in the shadows. Evan moves to meet this man. They move into a dark warehouse. They both pull swords from … somewhere and fight. Big fight scene, lots of fancy sword work, kung fu moves, loud music, broken stuff. Their swords end up crossed, their bodies close, their eyes meet and the scene fades to…….
The Year 1675..1780..1876….The Year 1968..the place...Vietna…Pari… Vancouver. Evan - wearing bell-bottoms and flowers in his long hair - is walking down the street when he "feels" another Immortal. He looks around and spots a heavyset bald man in the shadows. He walks over:
Evan: What are you doing here, Kron..Krame…Kur…Cameron?
Cam: You know what.
Evan and Cameron walk silently to a nearby dark parking lot. They both pull swords from ….somewhere and fight. Big fight scene, lots of fancy sword work, kung fu moves, loud music, broken stuff. Their swords end up crossed, their bodies close, their eyes meet and the scene fades to…….
Flashback to …1690..1815…1900..somewhere …a village.. …a village with a pub. Evan and Cameron are drinking, laughing and talking over old times.
Cam: Remember that time in 1784 when you were doing that body guard thing and I accidentally killed the woman you loved?
Evan: I've never quite forgiven you for that but I've tried to move on. Everything we loves dies….who wants to live forever?.
Cam: Well, ya know, she didn't really die. She was one of us…a witc..an alien from Zeis….sort of like us but no one could "feel" her…
Evan: I felt her up pretty good. Ha ha.
Flashback to the past. Evan in bed with a woman. Firelight. Glistening bodies. Hot sweaty sex. (Cut for American release) A moment of rapture as the scene returns to 1900.
Cam: No, no, you asshole. She could hide what she was. I think she was really old. Maybe the Source...
Evan: The Source? That's a legend.
Cam: Aren't all Immortals the stuff of legends?
Evan: Yeah, yeah, dawn of time, moving silently among you…I know I know.
Cam: Fine. Be that way! Anyway…I accidentally stabbed her while you were buggering that Count…..
Evan: I was NOT! I was his bodyguard!
Flashback to the past. Evan in bed with the Count. Firelight. Glistening bodies. Hot sweaty sex. (Cut for American release) A moment of rapture as the scene returns to 1900.
Cam: And boy did you guard his body!
Evan: That's it. Outside.
Evan and Cam exit the pub and move into a dark alley. They both pull swords from ... somewhere and fight. Big fight scene, lots of fancy sword work, kung fu moves, loud music, broken stuff. Their swords end up crossed, their bodies close, their eyes meet and they hear noise close by. They move apart. A stunningly beautiful blond…Asia ...African Americ…a stunningly beautiful woman of mixed heritage stands in the entrance to the alley - her pouty lips and massive chest highlighted by the street light.
Woman: Boys! Didn't I teach you to play nice?
Evan and Cam together: Carmen!
Flashback to the past. Evan in bed with Carmen and Cameron. Firelight. Glistening bodies. Hot sweaty sex. (Cut for American release) A moment of rapture as the scene returns to 1968.
The men move apart. Breathing hard from the fight, they pause.
Evan: I should have killed you for what you did to her.
Cam: It wasn't my fault. Why can't you believe that.? I loved her.
Evan: So did I.
Cam: You killed her.
Evan: You killed her first.
Cam: I think everyone's killed her at least once.
Evan: What?
Cam: Huh?
Evan: Fight, damn you.
::::return to present time in the warehouse::::
They spring at each other, swords flashing. More loud music, more fancy footwork, cool kung fu moves. Intercut sex scenes from past encounters. Evan gets the upper hand and is about to behead Cameron with a cool 360 degree spin/slash when they realize they have a witness.
Carmen: Hello boys. At it again?
Cam and Evan together: Carmen!
Flashback to sex. And old battles. The Milky Way turning. Telescope shot of Horseshoe Nebula. The seas crashing. Lightening flashes. Rain. Blinding sun in the desert. Sex. A pregnant woman seen from the neck down patting her bulging stomach. Ancient duels of Immortals. Tears on an unidentifiable face. Sex. Heads rolling and blood spurting. Whirling stars in the heavens.
Evan looks at Cameron. They both put their swords down.
Evan: What was that?
Carmen: A glimpse of the past ... and maybe the future. You see, besides being able to hide my immortality from other Immortals, I can also project my thoughts. I'm exceedingly beautiful and I can have children - all of whom turn out to be Immortal. I'm the best swordsperson around and I can build a defibulator from candlesticks and telephone wire.
Evan: You must be the Source.
Carmen: Yes. No one expects the Source to be a stunningly beautiful, highly intelligent, ass-kicking woman with pouty lips and a massive chest.
Cam: Wow. Tell us where we come from.
Carmen: No.
Evan: Please. We need to know why we're here.
Carmen: No.
Cam: Please. We need to know if there is any point to our lives. To the centuries of mindless beheadings and meaningless sex.
Carmen: OK. OK. What a couple of whiners. Once upon a time, there was a dwarf …
::::::: Fade out to glowing red eyes in fog::::::
To Be Continued in "Highlander 6 - Resurrection" coming in Summer 2006
*******************************
There you have it. Start saving your pennies ... you'll want to see this one more than once.
Wendy(Look for a Christmas 2004 DVD release.)(Director's Cut)(It will include the unedited sex scenes.)(I promise.)
Fairy Killer
jjswbt@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~jjswbt/index.html
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:18:17 -0400
From: KLZ3 <KZIMMERMAN3@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Highlander 5?
Sandy:
ROFLMAO!!!
> Well. . . . they had their big chance with Endgame and look where
> that led. <sigh> A whole 'nother movie worries me, and I've been a
> fan since the first movie in '86. JMHO.
>
I really think that HL, at least the first few seasons (even
season 5) were an Age of Aquarius kind of thing - everything was
aligned and balanced so story strength balanced writing which
balanced acting which balanced production which balanced...
It managed to bring out the best in all parts of production, so
that deficiencies in any area didn't stick out like sore thumbs.
AP was able to shine because he had decent material, even if he's
not Sir Larry.
> Rachel (rounding up the Dead Horses)
Downwind, please, Rachel. And keep 'em out of the Holy Hot Tub!
:::: shaking large can of Weezul-B-Gon and distributing
flame-proof red flannel long-johns ::::
ZK
kzimmerman3@cox.net
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:54:26 -0400
From: KLZ3 <KZIMMERMAN3@cox.net>
Subject: Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?")
Bizarro7@aol.com wrote:
>
> I suppose someone is going to have to start a brand new list for HL fans
> who've never experienced the previous discussions and topics mentioned. We
> wouldn't want to bore or offend those who've seen them before. Heaven help us
> if they start to show the series again in the US. Discussing HL on this list
> might destroy it.
The suggestions are all valid topics. My point in hauling
sandbags etc. is that copywrong concerning HL is as valid a
discussion as any other, and it's one that always brings people
out. Any discussion, even revisiting Dr. Anne's attire, would be
nice at this point.
ZK (twelve years vs. nine months)(The Mother of All Nasty
Fights)(The ugliest Q in the series)
kzimmerman3@cox.net
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:03:07 -0400
From: KLZ3 <KZIMMERMAN3@cox.net>
Subject: Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?")
> (unless someone else
> chooses to pick it up, but I'm hoping they won't - I
> think we've covered everything that needed to be
> said).
:::: running desperately after PoRA ::::
I doubt it. From what I understand, that discussion went on for
weeks.
Discussion is not arguing, even though it gets sarcastic or
biting or downright nasty at times. It is not necessary for
anyone to concede in an argument. IMGLO, the point is to present
a point of view as clearly and creatively as possible, and learn
from others, both ideas and style.
So there's another topic! What is the nature of discussion?
What is it's place in fandom? Does capitalization and
punctuation matter? What are cultural differences in debate and
discussion among listees from other countries and West of the
Mississippi? Will everything west of Maryland eventually fall
into the ocean?
ZK
"You ended that sentence with a preposition! B*st*rd!" -- Jack
O'Neill
"...but then I said, 'What the hell', and threw another PoRA on
the fire." -- WBT
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:17:37 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
Subject: Re: Highlander 5?
Wendy wrote:
>Flashback to the past. Evan in bed with the Count. Firelight. Glistening
>bodies. Hot sweaty sex. (Cut for American release) A moment of rapture
>as the scene returns to 1900.
>There you have it. Start saving your pennies ... you'll want to see this
>one more than once.
Well, it sounds like something I'd like. :) (No, a slash discussion
is NOT scheduled at this time.)
- Marina.
\\ "I'm naming all the stars." ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// "You can't see the stars, love. That's the || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ ceiling. Also, it's day." - Drusilla & Spike ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//=====Marina Bailey====tmar@sifl.iid.co.za=====|| \\
\\==============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie============//
"There is a Daniel Jackson-shaped hole in that show." - My brother,
about the sixth season of Stargate SG-1.
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:17:39 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
Subject: Re: Highlander 5?
ZK (who didn't misspell Richie once; I'm rather disappointed) wrote:
>I really think that HL, at least the first few seasons (even
>season 5) were an Age of Aquarius kind of thing - everything was
>aligned and balanced so story strength balanced writing which
>balanced acting which balanced production which balanced...
The thing is, all TV programmes/movie series eventually jump the shark
if they go on too long. After a while, it seems that TPTB are no
longer interested in putting out a worthwhile show, but more in
just keeping it going for the sake of either: a) continuing to make
money, b) keeping the 'nagging fans' (who'll watch anything with
that name on it) happy or c) just to have something to do. Or they
bring in changes in order to attract a larger audience (this never
works; all they do is piss off their existing audience), or try to
"fix" something that isn't broken (do I really even need to point
out a certain science fiction program which got rid of their best
character... it was about this huge round device that looked like
a glowing puddle of water, and you stepped through and ended up
on another planet).
Has there ever been one franchise/TV series that has ended in a
satisfactory way? (Trek - still going on; snooze factor increases
with each new attempt. Due South - get out the barf bags. I'd add
more examples, but I'm really tired.) Honestly, TPTB just do not
know when to leave well enough alone. It's better to go out on a
high note with people still talking about how good the show was,
than to fade into obscurity with a huge amount of PO'd fans dissing
your latest attempt to revive something that's unrevive-able. (Or
to put it in HL-speak, "It's better to burn out than to fade away."
Man, that Kurgan really knew what he was talking about.)
- Marina. (Veteran of over ten fandoms.) (Patterns emerge when
you're in fandom for over 20 years.) (If only TPTB would notice
these patterns and try to change them.) (But they're probably
too busy having a life.)
\\ "I'm naming all the stars." ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// "You can't see the stars, love. That's the || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ ceiling. Also, it's day." - Drusilla & Spike ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//=====Marina Bailey====tmar@sifl.iid.co.za=====|| \\
\\==============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie============//
"There is a Daniel Jackson-shaped hole in that show." - My brother,
about the sixth season of Stargate SG-1.
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End of HIGHLA-L Digest - 4 Sep 2002 to 5 Sep 2002 - Special issue (#2002-133)
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