HIGHLA-L Digest - 2 Aug 2002 to 3 Aug 2002 - Special issue (#2002-113)
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Topics in this special issue:
1. DVD's (2)
2. 'The Void' on SABC (18)
3. Opposite and Smale Sex warning: (was- Re: [HL] 'The Void' on SABC
4. AP Dark Shadows episodes? (2)
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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:00:52 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: DVD's
Kamil--
>>>I too had a very bad experience when I replaced my last VCR. I went
through
three different Sonys, all bought on the cheap at the local Wal-Mart, simply
because a Sony is a Sony, right? Not quite. I even drove half-way across
town to
pick up the third one, reasoning that maybe the one Wal-Mart had a bad
shipment.>>>
Wow--and you just castigated someone else for a lapse in earth-logic?
Tip--all Walmarts in a given town are stocked from the same point.... (&
none will have a full set of matching cafe curtains for my kitchen, except
in virulent orange).
Lynn--
> Spreading these rumors only encourages people *not* to buy the DVD's,
which
> is kind of a bad thing for those of us who'd actually like to see the
whole
> series released in this format. It's also kind of unfortunate for those
> who'd like to own the DVD's themselves, and are discouraged from buying
> because of these rumors.
Doesn't YOUR spreading the rumor that there is absolutely NO problem w/ the
HL DVDs _encourage_ people to get screwed?
Rob (re: Lynn's comment)--
>I still don't see how it's "unfortunate" to give valid information to
fellow consumers. So you're asking people with >incompatible and defective
DVDs to stop posting publicly, so that additional seasons are released so
some fans can >complete their DVD collections? Ludicrous!
I think Lynn's just objecting to the dissemination of information she
personally doesn't like. Right, Lynn?
Lynn--
> There have been a relatively few number of people (like, under 10) who've
> mentioned problems with the DVDs, on this or any forum that I've seen.
Under 10? Then you don't get around much, among the HL online community.
Lynn--
> Good grief.
Note to Rob--Judging from (vast) past experience, Lynn's about to throw up
her hands & give up trying to educate us all.
Lynn--
> And I'd say shame on people who scream "bad disc! bad disc!" in public
> without first doing the simple troubleshooting maneuver of taking the disc
to
> a friend's house or an electronics store and trying the disc on a
different
> player. That is an incredibly easy way of determining the most likely
cause
> of the problem. Yet everytime I've asked whether that was done, the
answer is
> no.
Odd--I know of people who did what you suggest & found the disc wouldn't
play on _anything_. Bet you aren't convinced, though & will keep screaming
"good disc! good disc!" in public.
Lynn--
> So you're right, any reports of problems without such troubleshooting
measures
> are indeed anecdotal, and therefore unsupported by any evidence, and
shouldn't
> be relied upon to state the generalization that there's any widespread
problem
> with the DVDs.
Lynn, it seems to me that YOUR persistent dismissal of reported consumer
problems is based on "evidence" that is just as anecdotal &--according to
you--unreliable. You got good discs/some people got GOOD discs; that
doesn't mean they are ALL good, does it?
Nina
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:11:20 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
John--
> Still, if AP guested
> in SG1 and she had to kiss him again, he'd be dead before the end of the
> second act. :)
Good--then I could quit watching it. And do my grocery list while waiting
impatiently for Farscape.
Nina (If AP guested on Farscape.... No. Weird latex make-up, Hotflesh,
padded alien costumes--all would be a sin on him. And I really don't think
ANY tv screen could hold both Adrian Paul & Ben Browder.)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 00:05:14 -0400
From: jjswbt@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
Marina says:
>Really, I'm just curious. I don't think we have a fight scheduled
>this month. (I won't start on fanfic if you won't!)
Oh..come on!
Let's do it for old time sake.
Where should be start?
We could argue about whether all female written fanfics are essentially Mary Sues whereas all male written fanfics are the purest of imaginative efforts.
or
We could argue that fanfic writers who insist on writing slash about demonstrably heterosexual characters are deluded old biddies who have never had any sex - hetero or homo- but have very active imaginations fueled by desperation and self loathing.
or
We could argue that the worst fanfic ever written was better than any script created for Season Six of Highlander (Oh, wait..no argument there.)
or we could skip fanfic all together and go right to the meat...
Cassandra and child-Duncan - child molestation or tribal initiation?
Cassandra and Methos - how long is too long to hold a grudge?
Amanda - cheap useless whore or skillful manipulator of potential male protectors?
Duncan - circumcised or no?
Richie - dead best friend or dead fool?
Joe - raging alcoholic or traditional blues man (Trick question ..the two are redundant)
Charlie - dumbest SOB in the world or...dumbest SOB in the world.
Rebecca and Amanda - bed shortage or true Canadians?
And finally
Xavier...tiny hand under the hook or no?
Wendy(tb,1254.7 years, whore, no, fool, yes, dumbest, Canadians, yes)
Fairy Killer
jjswbt@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~jjswbt/index.html
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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 23:22:51 -0500
From: Debra Douglass <ddoug@catrio.org>
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
On 8/2/2002, on HIGHLA-L@lists.psu.edu, MacWestie wrote:
>>Nina (If AP guested on Farscape.... No. Weird latex make-up, Hotflesh,
>>padded alien costumes--all would be a sin on him. And I really don't think
>>ANY tv screen could hold both Adrian Paul & Ben Browder.)
>>mac.westie@verizon.net
He could always guest as a Sebacean/Peacekeeper and thus would need no
appliances or padded costume. He could talk with a cool accent and
wear an interesting uniform. <g> I'm sold!
-Debbie
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|Debra Douglass ddoug@catrio.org http://www.catrio.org|
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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 23:36:55 -0500
From: Debra Douglass <ddoug@catrio.org>
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
On 8/2/2002, on HIGHLA-L@lists.psu.edu, Debra Douglass wrote:
>>On 8/2/2002, on HIGHLA-L@lists.psu.edu, MacWestie wrote:
>> >>Nina (If AP guested on Farscape.... No. Weird latex make-up, Hotflesh,
>> >>padded alien costumes--all would be a sin on him. And I really don't think
>> >>ANY tv screen could hold both Adrian Paul & Ben Browder.)
>> >>mac.westie@verizon.net
>>
>>He could always guest as a Sebacean/Peacekeeper and thus would need no
>>appliances or padded costume. He could talk with a cool accent and
>>wear an interesting uniform. <g> I'm sold!
And he and Crighton would have to fight and Adrian's uniform would get
torn and Crighton's outfit of the day would get torn
and... and... (oops the List Goddess is now far, far into ...
The Fantasy Zone...)
-Debbie
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|Debra Douglass ddoug@catrio.org http://www.catrio.org|
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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 23:47:50 -0500
From: Kamil <kamil@slashcity.com>
Subject: Re: DVD's
<Nina>
> Kamil--
> >>>I too had a very bad experience when I replaced my last VCR. I went
> through> three different Sonys, all bought on the cheap at the local Wal-Mart,
simply
> because a Sony is a Sony, right? Not quite. I even drove half-way across
> town to> pick up the third one, reasoning that maybe the one Wal-Mart had a
bad
> shipment.>>>
>
> Wow--and you just castigated someone else for a lapse in earth-logic?
> Tip--all Walmarts in a given town are stocked from the same point....
Probably should've made that clearer. When I say half-way across town, I'm
talking about leaving Edmond, driving south all the way through OKC (and OKC
covers a *lot* of land on its own), through Moore and on into Norman -- which
got me out of that one given town problem. (and no, I probably wouldn't have
gone that far without a decent incentive. I had one; OU's first fall scrimmage
was late that afternoon :) I didn't realize until later that you kinda have to
live around here to consider over fourty-five miles (covering four different
communities) as only 'half-way across town'. :)
Besides, you've heard me castigate someone before, Nina. That was barely a
snark, more on the level of a sleepy grump. <g>
> (&> none will have a full set of matching cafe curtains for my kitchen,
except> in virulent orange).
Sadly, yes, this is quite true. It is however possible that they'll have them in
neon shades of lime and turquoise though. *brr*
--
Kamil
The monitors have different web sites on them; chat rooms. A web of vines and
roots entwine the keyboards, type the keys. Oh but wait, you say -- a tree-like
flesh-demon with internet access is unrealistic! It's a
talking-for-god's-sakes-tree. Get over it.
Tim Minear & Jeffrey Bell "Couplet" Shooting Script -- AtS
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Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:12:42 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
Wendy--
>We could argue about whether all female written fanfics are essentially
Mary Sues whereas all male written fanfics are the
> purest of imaginative efforts.
Guys write fanfic?
>>>We could argue that fanfic writers who insist on writing slash about
demonstrably heterosexual characters are deluded old biddies who have never
had any sex - hetero or homo- but have very active imaginations fueled by
desperation and self loathing.>>>
I was told they paid gay guys for inside scoop & brand names of the best
lubricants. (How stupid must those gay guys think fanfic writers are???)
Debbie--
> And he and Crighton would have to fight and Adrian's uniform would get
> torn and Crighton's outfit of the day would get torn
> and... and... (oops the List Goddess is now far, far into ...
> The Fantasy Zone...)
Someone get this woman a cold compress. No, wait--she's clearly happy as
is.
Nina (it IS a nice image....Crichton would win--he fights dirty & has a pet
DRD as back-up, plus--it's his show; I can imagine AP saying "frell me dead"
10 different ways, all sexy as hell)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 02:15:47 -0500
From: Erin Tingler <erin@mail.sooner.net>
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
>On 8/2/2002, on HIGHLA-L@lists.psu.edu, MacWestie wrote:
> >>Nina (If AP guested on Farscape.... No. Weird latex make-up, Hotflesh,
> >>padded alien costumes--all would be a sin on him. And I really don't think
> >>ANY tv screen could hold both Adrian Paul & Ben Browder.)
> >>mac.westie@verizon.net
>
>He could always guest as a Sebacean/Peacekeeper and thus would need no
>appliances or padded costume. He could talk with a cool accent and
>wear an interesting uniform. <g> I'm sold!
>
>-Debbie
>
I vote that AP show up on _all_ the current S-F/fantasy shows.
He'd be a killer Nietzschean on "Andromeda".
A noble alien resisting the Go'auld on SG-1
A noble alien resisting the Romulans on "Enterprise"
A fabulous vampire on "Buffy"
An even more fabulous vampire hunter on "Angel"
A fabulous noble resistance fighter on "Conflict Earth" (Is that still on?)
A fabulous noble mutant resistance fighter on "Dark Angel"
A fabulous noble bad guy who decides to use his dark powers to the
good on "Witchblade"
A fabulous noble bad guy who decides to use his dark powers to the
good on "Charmed
A fabulous noble bad guy who decides to use his dark powers to the
good on "Birds of Prey"
Okay, I'm vamping here, I haven't seen much of most of these, but
you're probably getting the idea.
erin
--
No matter where you go, there you are.
--Buckaroo Banzai
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 05:52:57 -0500
From: Kamil <kamil@slashcity.com>
Subject: Opposite and Smale Sex warning: (was- Re: [HL] 'The Void' on SABC
Veering into Canadian Issues -- although I certainly didn't bring it up. Her
Weaselness did, then Nina responded -- and well, it's like the Call of the
Sirens whenever I hear it, okay?! LOL
> Wendy--
<snip>
> >>>We could argue that fanfic writers who insist on writing slash about
> demonstrably heterosexual characters are deluded old biddies who have never
> had any sex - hetero or homo- but have very active imaginations fueled by
> desperation and self loathing.>>>
<Nina>
> I was told they paid gay guys for inside scoop & brand names of the best
> lubricants. (How stupid must those gay guys think fanfic writers are???)
<me>
Oh come on, Nina. Seriously? :-^ We're not terribly close (that whole living
many thousands of miles apart thing :), but we've talked often over the years
about this and that, off list and on, and I suspect
that you're trying to get a PoRA(tm) to nibble at that oh-so tasty lure you just
quietly slipped out into the murky waters. Heh.
Not that I blame you for trying to wake the list up; it's summer re-run hell and
I think we're all bored shitless, but seriously! <G> My suspenders of disbelief
*snapped!!* (with no prior warning - bad, Nina!) when I read your observation.
:^ I've known you lo, these many years now -- and you're not that easy a mark.
<g>
:::momentary OT ramble::: I must confess that I'm eyeing the geezers porch
covetously. And have the occasional, erm, bad thought towards some of the
current residents. <weg> I've been here since mid '95 -- or was it '94...?
Sadly, that was many free mailing services ago, and no power on this earth could
convince me to remember some of those early psueds. If I did break throught the
memory wall I might have to do something inappropriately melodramatic. {:->
:::takes a moment to feel the shame::: And I'm done. :::::
Anyway, y'all will know this if you just think about it for a sec. Girls can,
and quite often do, have about every type of sex that gay guys do (I'll explain
the basics if necessary, but I suspect if you think about it it'll, erm, come to
you). Okay, here are the very basics -- mostly, hopefully, to avoid the 'you're
crazy/on drugs/need to be on drugs/that's *not* possible' responses. The *ewww*
responses though, you (universal) are pretty much on there. I'm not interested
in defending/rationalizing kink. Anyone's. As far as I'm concerned, 'kink' is a
value neutral word as long as it's irreparably tied to the 'consenting adults'
word. If that stipulation is met, then as far as I'm concerned: Your kink's
okay, my kink's okay." By the same token, if you (universal) feel the need to
bitch loud and long, or soft and melodiously about someone mentioning your
squick -- I'm certainly not going to get in the way of your doing that. <g>
Hint the second: think lesbians and bi-sexuals, now -- I have just one word:
strap-ons. Moving right along, it's a pretty good bet that we girley types
already have our own preferences when it comes to lubes; whether one is one the
side of 'science knows best' and orders on-line at Good Vibrations or nature is
where it's at and frequents The Honeysuckle Shop. Then again, there's the ever
popular test answer: (c) All of the above. <eg>
--
Kamil
The monitors have different web sites on them; chat rooms. A web of vines and
roots entwine the keyboards, type the keys. Oh but wait, you say -- a tree-like
flesh-demon with internet access is unrealistic! It's a
talking-for-god's-sakes-tree. Get over it.
Tim Minear & Jeffrey Bell "Couplet" Shooting Script -- AtS
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 12:08:25 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
John says:
> I think she was just joking about the love scene moments with Adrian -
> telling how naive SHE felt, rather than anything else. Still, if AP
guested
> in SG1 and she had to kiss him again, he'd be dead before the end of the
> second act. :)
nah, Martouf lasted several episodes before they
(thankfully) killed him off ;-)
Jette
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
Lt General Bosslady, SG-6, Search and Rescue.
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
The difference between men and boys
is the cost of their toys"
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 12:10:56 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
> On 8/2/2002, on HIGHLA-L@lists.psu.edu, MacWestie wrote:
> >>Nina (If AP guested on Farscape.... No. Weird latex make-up,
Hotflesh,
> >>padded alien costumes--all would be a sin on him. And I really don't
think
> >>ANY tv screen could hold both Adrian Paul & Ben Browder.)
> >>mac.westie@verizon.net
>
> He could always guest as a Sebacean/Peacekeeper and thus would need no
> appliances or padded costume. He could talk with a cool accent and
> wear an interesting uniform. <g> I'm sold!
>
> -Debbie
Dunno ....... does AP do an Aussie or Kiwi accent? Not
one I've heard in his repertoire, and he hasn't been a
GoH at a HLDown Under con yet ;-)
Jette
(aka Vinyaduriel)
"Work for Peace and remain fiercely loving" - Jim Byrnes
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://bosslady.tripod.com/fanfic.html
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 08:18:08 EDT
From: RED57@aol.com
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
In a message dated 8/2/2002 11:23:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
ddoug@catrio.org writes:
> He could always guest as a Sebacean/Peacekeeper and thus would need no
> appliances or padded costume. He could talk with a cool accent and
> wear an interesting uniform. <g> I'm sold!
>
I think I'm having an attack of the vapors. But unfortunately, unless he
makes a hell of a debut, he'd probably be wearing a red shirt with those
black leather pants. ;)
(did anyone see SG-1 last night? It was surprisingly funny, and I swear the
guests consisted of Dr. Phlox... and Harold, the nephew from the Red Green
show.)
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 08:18:40 EDT
From: RED57@aol.com
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
In a message dated 8/2/2002 11:37:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
ddoug@catrio.org writes:
> And he and Crighton would have to fight and Adrian's uniform would get
> torn and Crighton's outfit of the day would get torn
> and... and... (oops the List Goddess is now far, far into ...
> The Fantasy Zone...)
>
Quit playin' with the fanfic generator, Wendy just got it working again.
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 08:20:00 EDT
From: RED57@aol.com
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
In a message dated 8/3/2002 2:13:57 AM Central Daylight Time,
mac.westie@verizon.net writes:
> Wendy--
> >We could argue about whether all female written fanfics are essentially
> Mary Sues whereas all male written fanfics are the
> > purest of imaginative efforts.
>
> Guys write fanfic?
>
Guys write fanfic? Would the main character be called "Dirk" or something?
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 08:21:56 EDT
From: RED57@aol.com
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
In a message dated 8/3/2002 2:14:41 AM Central Daylight Time,
erin@mail.sooner.net writes:
> A fabulous noble bad guy who decides to use his dark powers to the
> good on "Witchblade"
>
Why not, that one guy (Hamilton? Humbolt? Hieronymous?) has been playing a
moderately Evil Duncan since ep. 1.
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 08:01:21 -0500
From: Debra Douglass <ddoug@catrio.org>
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
On 8/2/2002, on HIGHLA-L@lists.psu.edu, MacWestie wrote:
>>Nina (it IS a nice image....Crichton would win--he fights dirty & has a pet
>>DRD as back-up, plus--it's his show; I can imagine AP saying "frell me dead"
>>10 different ways, all sexy as hell)
Hah, I knew there was a subconscious hook that got me started on
Farscape in the first place. I had just never quite figured it
out. Now I have. It's the first time I've seen or rather heard my
initials used for anything but my name! DRD - Debra R. Douglass. They
are such a blah, uninteresting combination of letters - it's kind of
fitting that they are used as the designation for a maintenance 'bot.
-Debbie (Ben Browder was ...ok... in the first few seasons of Farscape
but I guess he sort of grows on you. Adrian still has him beat six
ways to Sunday in the sexy department though - especially with his
shirt off)
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|Debra Douglass ddoug@catrio.org http://www.catrio.org|
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 09:07:10 -0400
From: Heidi <heidi@apocalypse.org>
Subject: AP Dark Shadows episodes?
Since I'm sure someone around here will know, which episodes of the
Dark Shadows remake was AP in? I know he's in one of the pictures
on back of the video box, but I think he was also in a few other
episodes. All I know is it's not the first three since I've already
rented and watched those. It's kindof amusing watching them since
I had only seen part of one AP episode several years ago, and
haven't seen the original series in ages. While I may watch the
other episodes anyway since there aren't many, it'd be nice to
know which ones Adrian was in. So anyone know what those episode
numbers are? Thanks.
=}{=
(heidi@apocalypse.org)
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 09:38:57 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
In a message dated 8/3/02 8:18:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RED57@aol.com
writes:
<< (did anyone see SG-1 last night? It was surprisingly funny, and I swear the
guests consisted of Dr. Phlox... and Harold, the nephew from the Red Green
show.) >>
I found it better than some of the earlier episodes of this disappointing
season so far, but only one line made me laugh: Jack calling the First Prime
Jaffa a bastard because he ended a threat with a preposition. The rest of it
seemed to be a lot of potential poorly realized, and a lot of implications
that all intellectuals are geeks and sci-fi fans and vice versa. The final
scene, that implied that the entire adventure might have occurred in the
imagination of the physicist, was an anti-climax, IMO.
Leah
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 09:46:10 EDT
From: Dawn Lehman <USTADAWN@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
In a message dated 8/3/02 8:22:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RED57@aol.com
writes:
> > A fabulous noble bad guy who decides to use his dark powers to the
> > good on "Witchblade"
> >
>
> Why not, that one guy (Hamilton? Humbolt? Hieronymous?) has been playing a
> moderately Evil Duncan since ep. 1.
>
The character's name is Ian Nottingham and yes, he is like a moderately Evil
Duncan; that is why I like to watch the show (religiously as I did
Highlander, in the day). Not to mention, Nottinghham (a.k.a. Eric Etebari in
real life) is very easy and yummy on the eye too! Just like another tall,
dark, sexy immortal we all know and love.......
USTADAWN
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 10:00:12 EDT
From: Lazbar@aol.com
Subject: Re: AP Dark Shadows episodes?
In a message dated 8/3/02 9:07:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
heidi@apocalypse.org writes:
> Since I'm sure someone around here will know, which episodes of the
> Dark Shadows remake was AP in? I
Adrian was in episodes 7, 8 and 9 of the New Dark Shadows.
Barb
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 10:00:56 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
In a message dated 8/3/02 9:47:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, USTADAWN@aol.com
writes:
<< The character's name is Ian Nottingham and yes, he is like a moderately
Evil
Duncan; that is why I like to watch the show (religiously as I did
Highlander, in the day). Not to mention, Nottinghham (a.k.a. Eric Etebari in
real life) is very easy and yummy on the eye too! Just like another tall,
dark, sexy immortal we all know and love.......
>>
If anyone's been following DEAD ZONE, I've noticed that the hero's eerie
abilities give the writers the opportunity to do flashbacks on the show,
despite the fact that nobody is Immortal. Very well written, so far.
Leah
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 10:02:49 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
In a message dated 8/3/02 9:47:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, USTADAWN@aol.com
writes:
<< The character's name is Ian Nottingham and yes, he is like a moderately
Evil
Duncan; that is why I like to watch the show (religiously as I did
Highlander, in the day). Not to mention, Nottinghham (a.k.a. Eric Etebari in
real life) is very easy and yummy on the eye too! Just like another tall,
dark, sexy immortal we all know and love....... >>
Haven't they been hinting in the past few episodes that Sara, Irons and some
of the other characters showing up might be some form of Immortals that keep
getting reincarnated? I never read the comic, so if there are any clues
there, I don't know 'em. I like the show, although its comic series roots
sometimes show.
Leah
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Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 10:34:56 EDT
From: Dawn Lehman <USTADAWN@aol.com>
Subject: Re: 'The Void' on SABC
In a message dated 8/3/02 10:03:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Bizarro7@aol.com
writes:
> Nottinghham (a.k.a. Eric Etebari in
> real life) is very easy and yummy on the eye too! Just like another tall,
> dark, sexy immortal we all know and love....... >>
>
> Haven't they been hinting in the past few episodes that Sara, Irons and
> some
> of the other characters showing up might be some form of Immortals that
> keep
> getting reincarnated?
I never read the comic either, but from what I gather, Sara was pre-ordained
to be the wielder of the Witchblade; gauntlet. She is like an immortal in
the sense that she has uncanny supernatural abilities, but I don't believe
that any of the characters on Witchblade live forever as an immortal does (at
least until a really bad nick on the neck!) The soul of Sara's character is
alive and has been alive in many individuals in time (e.g. Joan of Arc,
Elizabeth Bronte....) and that "soul" has the connection to the Witchblade -
that soul is the "True Witchblade wielder." Many have tried to wear the
gauntlet but have failed. As far as Ian goes, he is a scientific creation
made up of the genes/DNA of Elizabeth Bronte - a true wielder - and "other
stuff; DNA" that really hasn't been told to us yet. At the end of the 1st
season, we see Ian get killed, but another Ian clone reappears at the whim of
Irons, of course. Irons, on the other hand, is a human who tried to wear the
witchblade but couldn't (because he is male, and not a true wielder). I
think his ability to hang around longer than most and his apparent Immortal
status came as a side effect of trying to wield the blade.
Having said that, I think the only male alive that could ever come close to
wearing the Witchblade would have to be Ian Nottingham, since he is made up
of the DNA of a true wielder - Eliz. Bronte.
At the beginning of Season 2, characters who died in the 1st season were
alive again due to the fact that Sara used the Witchblade to pierce a hole in
Time and turn it back a notch or two. The underlying thread of the series
"Witchblade" is the idea that time is a continum that exist simultaneously
with itself (boy that was worded horribly, but I hope you can still get my
point). The past, present, and future all exist at the same time, just on
different planes and what Sara did was to "poke a hole" in the present time
and - like a balloon loosing air - slip back a step or two, or let a little
bit of the past leak into the future. Very existential!!!!!! I LOVE IT!
Any way, that is my take on the story/immortal like beings, so far. Anyone
out here that has read the comic, etc. please correct me if my take is
incomplete; I'd really like to know (pierce the realm of the future) so that
I might foresee future episodes of Witchblade - get a leg up, so to speak!
USTADAWN - A never ending lover of Highlander and a new lover of Witchblade.
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