There are 12 messages totalling 610 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. YKWYTTMOHLW 2. Eurominutes_Raven - Cloak and Dagger 3. Bi-Monthly Reminder 4. ADMIN: The list owner is back <g> (5) 5. Highlander: Endgame reviews 6. Eurominutes_ Raven - Passion Play (2) 7. Endgame- Spoilers- Upon rewatching above I forgot spoilers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:06:13 EST From: FVersch@aol.com Subject: YKWYTTMOHLW Greetings all, I'm working in Oklahoma City at Will Rogers National Airport now. Going to the Hotel, I see an Oklahoma State License plate "Luckeee". I then think of the Clown in the Lady and the Tiger episode, when Amanda makes her first Highlander appearance. The scene is from Duncan is riding on horseback, standing on the horse and throwing knives at a target and "misses" hitting the AC power mains. He was able to escape to his freedom from his circus captures. What are the gun laws in Paris? The loin trainer was supposed to be a crack shoot if our Dark Angel escapes. Can't wait to buy a DVD player to see the new DVD episodes. Peace ~~ Fred @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ What is the average attention spanned of staff meetings? Whole studies to measure employees' responses to their bosses. The studies have developed pills to help us pay attention? I thought riddlen had the opposite effect on adults. Or what about adults like me who will never grow much. Like Merlin, *I* grow younger, just ask my kids, "Dad, GROW UP!" @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:11:23 EST From: FVersch@aol.com Subject: Re: Eurominutes_Raven - Cloak and Dagger Thank you Lady Queen, good luck on the spring rites of your up coming camping trip and mask and cape and swords party in the fields. (PARTTAAA at the Weasel Castle just watch out for Zeus and Apollo -- the dogs that even the god Hades hated.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:48:09 -0500 From: Debra Douglass <ddoug@cs273-199.austin.rr.com> Subject: Bi-Monthly Reminder (updated 8/1/00) HIGHLA-L Bi-Monthly Reminders The address to send your LISTSERV commands to is LISTSERV@LISTS.PSU.EDU. The listowner can be contacted at ddoug@CATRIO.ORG If your posts to HIGHLA-L are being "submitted to the moderator of the HIGHLA-L list" please check out the section below titled "WHAT TO DO IF THE LISTSERV SAYS YOU ARE NOT SUBSCRIBED TO HIGHLA-L:" ----- All of you received the Membership Rules when you first subscribed to this list so I'm not going to repeat them here but I will hit a few high points. Also included is a few LISTSERV commands to change your subscription to this list. No Flaming Is Allowed. (see note) We have strict Spoiler Rules for the current first-run season. 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I now have a HUGE amount of reading to do. <g> -Debbie -- .------------------------------------------------------------------. |Debra Douglass ddoug@catrio.org http://www.catrio.org| `------------------------------------------------------------------' ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:54:49 EST From: Highlandmg@aol.com Subject: Re: ADMIN: The list owner is back <g> The Party's over Now I know who to blame for our weather..... We have to behave now Debbie's watching. Hey Debbie we still have lots of snow here. Mary ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:00:24 -0500 From: Tammy Williams <sackett@rivercto.net> Subject: Re: ADMIN: The list owner is back <g> Debbie wrote: >downloaded. I now have a HUGE amount of reading to do. <g> <looks around quickly and sidles up to Debbie> It was Wendy's fault! The Weazul made us do it!!!! <grins insanely> <runs away> eviltammy sackett@rivercto.net Love means never having to say, "Does that twenty include the spanking?" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:13:08 -0500 From: Debra Douglass <ddoug@catrio.org> Subject: Re: ADMIN: The list owner is back <g> On 3/16/2001, on HIGHLA-L@lists.psu.edu, Highlandmg@aol.com wrote: >>Hey Debbie we still have lots of snow here. And you can keep it. <g> The winters in Massachusetts is one of the reasons that I moved to Texas (where they are experiencing nice spring weather). -Debbie -- .------------------------------------------------------------------. |Debra Douglass ddoug@catrio.org http://www.catrio.org| `------------------------------------------------------------------' ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:38:23 -1000 From: Geiger <geiger@maui.net> Subject: Highlander: Endgame reviews Rotten Tomatoes' reviews for HL:EG-- http://www.rottentomatoes.com/movie-1099730/ Nina (15% is generous; they use the e word) geiger@maui.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:04:36 -0500 From: jjswbt@earthlink.net Subject: Eurominutes_ Raven - Passion Play Ugh. This is perhaps my least favorite episode (no wait)("Birthright" is my least favorite)(no)(It was "Cloak and Dagger".)(Hey..maybe I'm not the best one to be writing these things.)(But if I won't do it..who will?)(Then again...maybe it doesn't need doing.)(I haven't even gotten to the Paris episodes yet.)(Some of them stink too.)(Maybe "Passion Play" isn't so bad.)(No.)(It's bad.) I remember that, when it originally aired, coming right after the sucky "Cloak and Dagger", I almost gave up on Raven.(Which time was that, Wendy?)(I almost gave up so often.) Only the lure of Val Pelka in the next episode kept me going.(And..boy..didn't that turn out great.)(Not.). Now ..after having seen the Eurominutes..I have to say...nope...didn't change my opinion at all. Except..maybe I disliked Lucy even more. (If that was possible.) ********************************* Passion Play Scene 1. Amanda is playing with her fan. Nick and Lucy arrive after Lucy has been in jail. They talk. Off Amanda's red fan, a flashback begin: American: Cut to backstage 30 years ago. A photographer is taking a picture of Marco and Lucy. Euro: Marco and Lucy are on stage taking bows. Sweeping shot of the audience applauding wildly. More bows. Marco kisses Lucy and says, "They loved you, Lucy". She is excited and happy. Shot of the audience again - Amanda is there applauding like everyone else. Then - cut to photographer backstage. Scene 2: Flashback continues. Marco and Lucy backstage...Marco feels an Immortal approaching and Amanda appears. Kiss kiss. Lucy is obviously jealous. Marco reassures Lucy and Lucy walks off alone to allow Marco and Amanda to chat. Amanda and Marco talk ..blah blah blah..until: Marco: "We had that Springtime in Paris..and she knows that I still remember." American: Cut to Lucy sitting at a bar having wine and Wilson approaching her. Euro: M: "We had that Springtime in Paris..and she knows that I still remember." A: You have such a poet's soul." M: "I should go after her." A:" You know what? Let me. OK?" M: "OK" <Amanda walks away. Cut to Lucy drinking wine at the bar. Amanda walks up from behind her and proceeds to sit on the next bar stool> A: <smiling>"If it would make you feel any better, you can shoot me." L: <sourly> "You'd just get back up" <pause> "You slept with him" A:" So much for small talk." L: "Life's too short...for some of us." A:"Do you really want to know?" L: "Yes." <pause>"No. I already do." A: <sincerely>"Marco is really proud of you. Your performance tonight was..magnificent. Beautiful." L: "Marco's words." A:" No. Darling. *Your* voice. It was magic." L: "Did you love him?" A: "Maybe. A very long time ago." L: "Long for whom?" A: "Lucy..I'm not the competition." L: "Aren't you?" A: "No. He loves you. You won. I'm happy for you both." <Amanda feels an Immortal approaching. She looks around. Wilson has entered the bar and is walking toward them.> A: <to Lucy> "I'll be back." <Amanda goes to meet Wilson, stopping half way across the room from Lucy.> A: "Wilson." W: "How long has it been, Amanda?" A: "The Old Globe and I was probably the only one *not* throwing tomatoes." <Wilson and Amanda do that air kiss-kiss thing actors supposedly do> W: "It was the writer's fault." A: "It always is." <she moves to leave> "Be good." <Amanda walks away in the direction Wilson came.> Back to..Wilson approaching Lucy at the bar. Scene 3: Amanda's apartment. Lucy is mad that neither Nick or Amanda will agree to kill Wilson for her. L:"To hell with both of you" <Cut to outside shot of police station. ..then to interior> American: Wilson, in suit and tie, is talking to the female cop who processed Lucy the night she was arrested. W: <wearily> "Up since 5..in court......" Euro: Cut to outside shot police station. .. then to interior. Wilson enters, doing his hammy best to look like a nerdy lawyer. He walks past a couple of cops bringing in a hooker- who comments that she would like him to be her lawyer. <wink wink nudge nudge> Wilson wanders around the room, scouting and also trying to look like he belongs there. He sees the female cop he needs to talk to. He approaches and hands her a business card which she reads. Cop: "Pro Bono? I don't remember you." Wilson: "Oh. They transferred me from upstate last month.<goes into his weary act> "Up since 5..in court..." Scene 4: After Lucy has accidently tried to shoot Nick at the theatre, everyone is at Amanda's. American: A:"What the hell was she thinking? What were you thinking?" Euro: L: <upset>"Nick. I could have killed you." N: "But you didn't." A:" But she could have!" N: "Amanda! She was aiming for me. If I'm not pissed, you shouldn't be." A:"What the hell was she thinking? What were you thinking?" ******************************** Things that annoyed me<eg> The Euros establish that Amanda was sitting in the audience during Lucy and Marco's performance..yet Marco gave no indication that an Immortal was there...and he seemed surprised when she arrives back stage. He appears to sense her only when she gets within about 10 feet. Is his radar defective? The bar scene. First..where did Amanda come from? She arrives *behind* Lucy even though we can see that the door is to the side of the bar (where Wilson later enters.)Two doors? Ok...I'll accept that if I have to. Still in the bar. Lucy has been living with Marco for some unspecified time..long enough, one would imagine, to recognize that intense-yet-vacant stare of an Immortal sensing another Immortal. Yet..when Amanda senses Wilson entering the bar..Lucy apparently doesn't catch that Wilson is Immortal too. Surely she wouldn't have chosen another Immortal to use make her husband jealous, would she? Or would she..seeing as Marco had Amanda..did Lucy think Wilson was just revenge? If so..she is stupider than she originally seemed. Still in the bar....Amanda seems to have a history with Wilson and seems to imply (later) that Wilson was a dangerous jerk from way back. So..why did Amanda leave Lucy sitting alone in the bar with Wilson? Amanda didn't even go back and warn Lucy to watch out for Wilson..she just left. (So much for her "I'll be back") The Quickening. Oh...man..was that horrible or what? Does EG cringe every time she watches it? I do. Please..please..don't make me watch that puppet routine again. <shudder> The only scene that moved me ( Beyond the horrified shudder mentioned above <eg>) was the bit with Lucy and Nick huddled in the dark alley outside the theatre waiting to see who would win the fight- Wilson or Amanda. They see the Quickening and don't know who is still alive. It showed, in a very simple way the reality of living with/loving an Immortal...the waiting to see if the loved one comes home again. Of course, HL:TS did it first and better..but it was nice here too. Wendy(Shouldn't Amanda have whacked Wilson just for being such a stereotype?) Fairy Killer jjswbt@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~jjswbt/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:47:57 -0800 From: Danni Butterfuss <dbutter@wvi.com> Subject: Re: ADMIN: The list owner is back <g>Welcome back. Glad to see you made the move ok.
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