HIGHLA-L Digest - 15 Mar 2001 to 16 Mar 2001 (#2001-98)
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Topics of the day:
1. YKWYTTMOHLW
2. Eurominutes_Raven - Cloak and Dagger
3. Bi-Monthly Reminder
4. ADMIN: The list owner is back <g> (5)
5. Highlander: Endgame reviews
6. Eurominutes_ Raven - Passion Play (2)
7. Endgame- Spoilers- Upon rewatching above I forgot spoilers
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:06:13 EST
From: FVersch@aol.com
Subject: YKWYTTMOHLW
Greetings all,
I'm working in Oklahoma City at Will Rogers National Airport now. Going to
the Hotel, I see an Oklahoma State License plate "Luckeee".
I then think of the Clown in the Lady and the Tiger episode, when Amanda
makes her first Highlander appearance.
The scene is from Duncan is riding on horseback, standing on the horse and
throwing knives at a target and "misses" hitting the AC power mains. He was
able to escape to his freedom from his circus captures. What are the gun
laws in Paris? The loin trainer was supposed to be a crack shoot if our Dark
Angel escapes.
Can't wait to buy a DVD player to see the new DVD episodes.
Peace ~~ Fred
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What is the average attention spanned of staff meetings? Whole studies to
measure employees' responses to their bosses. The studies have developed
pills to help us pay attention?
I thought riddlen had the opposite effect on adults. Or what about adults
like me who will never grow much. Like Merlin, *I* grow younger, just ask my
kids, "Dad, GROW UP!"
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:11:23 EST
From: FVersch@aol.com
Subject: Re: Eurominutes_Raven - Cloak and Dagger
Thank you Lady Queen, good luck on the spring rites of your up coming camping
trip and mask and cape and swords party in the fields. (PARTTAAA at the
Weasel Castle just watch out for Zeus and Apollo -- the dogs that even the
god Hades hated.)
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:48:09 -0500
From: Debra Douglass <ddoug@cs273-199.austin.rr.com>
Subject: Bi-Monthly Reminder
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:52:44 -0500
From: Debra Douglass <ddoug@catrio.org>
Subject: ADMIN: The list owner is back <g>
The whole move process took much longer than expected (I managed to
get out of Massachusetts just before the first huge storm hit) and it
took me a while to get back online -and- get all my accumulated email
downloaded. I now have a HUGE amount of reading to do. <g>
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 00:54:49 EST
From: Highlandmg@aol.com
Subject: Re: ADMIN: The list owner is back <g>
The Party's over
Now I know who to blame for our weather.....
We have to behave now Debbie's watching.
Hey Debbie we still have lots of snow here.
Mary
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:00:24 -0500
From: Tammy Williams <sackett@rivercto.net>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: The list owner is back <g>
Debbie wrote:
>downloaded. I now have a HUGE amount of reading to do. <g>
<looks around quickly and sidles up to Debbie>
It was Wendy's fault! The Weazul made us do it!!!!
<grins insanely>
<runs away>
eviltammy
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Love means never having to say, "Does that twenty include the spanking?"
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 01:13:08 -0500
From: Debra Douglass <ddoug@catrio.org>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: The list owner is back <g>
On 3/16/2001, on HIGHLA-L@lists.psu.edu, Highlandmg@aol.com wrote:
>>Hey Debbie we still have lots of snow here.
And you can keep it. <g> The winters in Massachusetts is one of the
reasons that I moved to Texas (where they are experiencing nice spring
weather).
-Debbie
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:38:23 -1000
From: Geiger <geiger@maui.net>
Subject: Highlander: Endgame reviews
Rotten Tomatoes' reviews for HL:EG--
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/movie-1099730/
Nina (15% is generous; they use the e word)
geiger@maui.net
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:04:36 -0500
From: jjswbt@earthlink.net
Subject: Eurominutes_ Raven - Passion Play
Ugh. This is perhaps my least favorite episode (no wait)("Birthright" is my least favorite)(no)(It was "Cloak and Dagger".)(Hey..maybe I'm not the best one to be writing these things.)(But if I won't do it..who will?)(Then again...maybe it doesn't need doing.)(I haven't even gotten to the Paris episodes yet.)(Some of them stink too.)(Maybe "Passion Play" isn't so bad.)(No.)(It's bad.) I remember that, when it originally aired, coming right after the sucky "Cloak and Dagger", I almost gave up on Raven.(Which time was that, Wendy?)(I almost gave up so often.) Only the lure of Val Pelka in the next episode kept me going.(And..boy..didn't that turn out great.)(Not.). Now ..after having seen the Eurominutes..I have to say...nope...didn't change my opinion at all. Except..maybe I disliked Lucy even more. (If that was possible.)
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Passion Play
Scene 1. Amanda is playing with her fan. Nick and Lucy arrive after Lucy has been in jail. They talk. Off Amanda's red fan, a flashback begin:
American: Cut to backstage 30 years ago. A photographer is taking a picture of Marco and Lucy.
Euro: Marco and Lucy are on stage taking bows. Sweeping shot of the audience applauding wildly. More bows. Marco kisses Lucy and says, "They loved you, Lucy". She is excited and happy. Shot of the audience again - Amanda is there applauding like everyone else. Then - cut to photographer backstage.
Scene 2: Flashback continues. Marco and Lucy backstage...Marco feels an Immortal approaching and Amanda appears. Kiss kiss. Lucy is obviously jealous. Marco reassures Lucy and Lucy walks off alone to allow Marco and Amanda to chat. Amanda and Marco talk ..blah blah blah..until:
Marco: "We had that Springtime in Paris..and she knows that I still remember."
American: Cut to Lucy sitting at a bar having wine and Wilson approaching her.
Euro:
M: "We had that Springtime in Paris..and she knows that I still remember."
A: You have such a poet's soul."
M: "I should go after her."
A:" You know what? Let me. OK?"
M: "OK"
<Amanda walks away. Cut to Lucy drinking wine at the bar. Amanda walks up from behind her and proceeds to sit on the next bar stool>
A: <smiling>"If it would make you feel any better, you can shoot me."
L: <sourly> "You'd just get back up" <pause> "You slept with him"
A:" So much for small talk."
L: "Life's too short...for some of us."
A:"Do you really want to know?"
L: "Yes." <pause>"No. I already do."
A: <sincerely>"Marco is really proud of you. Your performance tonight was..magnificent. Beautiful."
L: "Marco's words."
A:" No. Darling. *Your* voice. It was magic."
L: "Did you love him?"
A: "Maybe. A very long time ago."
L: "Long for whom?"
A: "Lucy..I'm not the competition."
L: "Aren't you?"
A: "No. He loves you. You won. I'm happy for you both."
<Amanda feels an Immortal approaching. She looks around. Wilson has entered the bar and is walking toward them.>
A: <to Lucy> "I'll be back."
<Amanda goes to meet Wilson, stopping half way across the room from Lucy.>
A: "Wilson."
W: "How long has it been, Amanda?"
A: "The Old Globe and I was probably the only one *not* throwing tomatoes."
<Wilson and Amanda do that air kiss-kiss thing actors supposedly do>
W: "It was the writer's fault."
A: "It always is." <she moves to leave> "Be good."
<Amanda walks away in the direction Wilson came.>
Back to..Wilson approaching Lucy at the bar.
Scene 3: Amanda's apartment. Lucy is mad that neither Nick or Amanda will agree to kill Wilson for her.
L:"To hell with both of you" <Cut to outside shot of police station. ..then to interior>
American: Wilson, in suit and tie, is talking to the female cop who processed Lucy the night she was arrested.
W: <wearily> "Up since 5..in court......"
Euro:
Cut to outside shot police station. .. then to interior. Wilson enters, doing his hammy best to look like a nerdy lawyer. He walks past a couple of cops bringing in a hooker- who comments that she would like him to be her lawyer. <wink wink nudge nudge> Wilson wanders around the room, scouting and also trying to look like he belongs there. He sees the female cop he needs to talk to. He approaches and hands her a business card which she reads.
Cop: "Pro Bono? I don't remember you."
Wilson: "Oh. They transferred me from upstate last month.<goes into his weary act> "Up since 5..in court..."
Scene 4: After Lucy has accidently tried to shoot Nick at the theatre, everyone is at Amanda's.
American:
A:"What the hell was she thinking? What were you thinking?"
Euro:
L: <upset>"Nick. I could have killed you."
N: "But you didn't."
A:" But she could have!"
N: "Amanda! She was aiming for me. If I'm not pissed, you shouldn't be."
A:"What the hell was she thinking? What were you thinking?"
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Things that annoyed me<eg>
The Euros establish that Amanda was sitting in the audience during Lucy and Marco's performance..yet Marco gave no indication that an Immortal was there...and he seemed surprised when she arrives back stage. He appears to sense her only when she gets within about 10 feet. Is his radar defective?
The bar scene. First..where did Amanda come from? She arrives *behind* Lucy even though we can see that the door is to the side of the bar (where Wilson later enters.)Two doors? Ok...I'll accept that if I have to.
Still in the bar. Lucy has been living with Marco for some unspecified time..long enough, one would imagine, to recognize that intense-yet-vacant stare of an Immortal sensing another Immortal. Yet..when Amanda senses Wilson entering the bar..Lucy apparently doesn't catch that Wilson is Immortal too. Surely she wouldn't have chosen another Immortal to use make her husband jealous, would she? Or would she..seeing as Marco had Amanda..did Lucy think Wilson was just revenge? If so..she is stupider than she originally seemed.
Still in the bar....Amanda seems to have a history with Wilson and seems to imply (later) that Wilson was a dangerous jerk from way back. So..why did Amanda leave Lucy sitting alone in the bar with Wilson? Amanda didn't even go back and warn Lucy to watch out for Wilson..she just left. (So much for her "I'll be back")
The Quickening. Oh...man..was that horrible or what? Does EG cringe every time she watches it? I do. Please..please..don't make me watch that puppet routine again. <shudder>
The only scene that moved me ( Beyond the horrified shudder mentioned above <eg>) was the bit with Lucy and Nick huddled in the dark alley outside the theatre waiting to see who would win the fight- Wilson or Amanda. They see the Quickening and don't know who is still alive. It showed, in a very simple way the reality of living with/loving an Immortal...the waiting to see if the loved one comes home again. Of course, HL:TS did it first and better..but it was nice here too.
Wendy(Shouldn't Amanda have whacked Wilson just for being such a stereotype?)
Fairy Killer
jjswbt@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~jjswbt/index.html
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 09:47:57 -0800
From: Danni Butterfuss <dbutter@wvi.com>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: The list owner is back <g>
Welcome back. Glad to see you made the move ok.
Blessed Be,
Danni
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:11:34 EST
From: Dawn Lehman
Subject: Re: Endgame- Spoilers- Upon rewatching above I forgot spoilers
Do we really need the spoiler space still???????
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OH, (I'll be glad when the spoiler space stops!) Any way, I just wanted to
add that I too was glad to see the extra footage in the film. My faviorite
added scene - I think this was in the workprint - was the pouring of the wine
onto the ground by Methos. Methos had just finished telling Duncan about the
sanctuary and that it was destroyed the night before, then he dumps his "red"
wine out of his glass and the camera catches it spill to the ground. For me
that was really great symbolism. Of course, there are many more added scenes
that were awsome too, but I really liked the symbolism in this one scene. It
really stood out for me. Oh well just my 2 cents worth.
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:43:58 -0500
From: Sandy Fields
Subject: Re: Eurominutes_ Raven - Passion Play
Ya know... I watched all of the Raven episodes, and none of them really
stuck in my mind. They were just average stuff for me. Nothing of note
worth remembering.
However, I'm enjoying reading Wendy's eurominutes... maybe just because it
gives me some 'new' HL to ponder -- such as it is.
And I agree about the scene with Nick and Lucy waiting in the alley to see
who won. That was some pretty powerful stuff.
Keep 'em coming Wendy. I'm not really responding to the euros you're
posting because I don't remember the episodes. But I'm enjoying the read. :-)
-- Sandy
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