HIGHLA-L Digest - 14 Mar 2001 to 15 Mar 2001 (#2001-97)
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Topics of the day:
1. Eurominutes_Raven - Cloak and Dagger
2. Female Immortals Redux
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:12:52 -0500
From: jjswbt@earthlink.net
Subject: Eurominutes_Raven - Cloak and Dagger
This isn't one of my favorite Raven episodes. But..I watched it..and was rewarded with a new Nick &Amanda scene. It appears to be the sole "missing" scene in this episode.
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Cloak and Dagger
Scene: Amanda has discovered that Bert killed a man during their late night excursion to the "lawyer's" house. She wants to talk to Bert. Amanda goes to see Nick in his garage to ask where Bert is. Nick is no help and at the end of the scene he walks out a door, telling Amanda not to touch anything as he goes.
American: Cut to Bert walking across a street.
Euro: Cut to Nick in a grubby bathroom. He is washing his hands at the sink. Amanda is just outside the closed door (still in the garage).
A: <pounding in the door> "Nick! Open the door!"
N: "Sorry. I can't hear you, Amanda. What?"
A: Just listen for one second, please."
N<muttering> "As if I have a choice."
A: Why is it always your job to take care of everybody?"
<Nick stops washing and dries his hands. He strips off the dirty white T-shirt he is wearing and puts on a long sleeve black knit shirt>
N:Oh....don't think of it as a job. Think of it more as a hobby."
A: "Where is he!"
N: "Tell you what. You look after the Immortals and leave the rest to me."
A: "Nick!"
<Nick pulls out his cell phone and dials>
N: <very quietly to phone> Hey Catherine. It's Nick. Is he there? <he keeps an eye on the door where Amanda is>
A: "Who are you talking to?"
N: <still to phone> "OK. Listen. If he calls in..have him get ahold of me."
A: "Nick!"
N:<to phone> And look Catherine...don't worry." <hangs up>
A: "Nick! Who are you talking to?"
<Nick goes out a second door while Amanda renews her pounding on the first door. As Nick leaves, we hear Amanda still yelling "Nick" behind him>
Scene continues outside in alley. Nick is walking away, Amanda is following and catches up as she speaks.
A:"You know...you are the most stubborn. pigheaded man I ever met!"
N:"You know..I've been called worse by better people."
A: <insistent>"All right, I want you to tell me where Myers is!"
N:"No!"
A:<tries to be reasonable>"I know he's your friend..."
N:"Why?"
A: "Because he set me up."
N:" But why is it you agreed to help him?"
A:"Does it matter?"
N:"To me, yes."
A:<brushing it off>"Oh..the moon was blue and my Venus was in retrograde.Why does anyone do anything?"
N:"You never trusted Myers."
A:"I also worked with Machievelli. I didn't trust him either."
N:"And what kind of felony did you commit for him?"
A:<playfully>"Well...as far as I recall it had something to do with a gondola, the Grand Canal and a dwarf named Antonio.<turns serious> Just give me his address."
N:"You never thought anyone was going to indict me."
A:" Because you were innocent? What has that got to do with anything? Myers is right..you *are* a Boy Scout."
N:"And you're a thief who put her butt on the line for an ex-cop."
A:"What can I say? I'm a paradox wrapped in an enigma. Although..I look better wrapped in mink."
N:"Why can't you just be straight with me?"
A:"I don't have time to go into the finer points of truth, justice and the American way. Let's just say I've lived long enough to see good men get shafted and I didn't want to see it happen to you."
N:"You don't owe me anything."
A:"I don't think I do."
N<serious> Thank you.
A:"You're welcome. Now..what's his address?"
N:"Forget it."
A:"Hey! Wait a minute. What about a little quid pro quo here? I help you...you help me. You owe me on this one."
N:"That's exactly why I'm going to take care of this by myself."
<Nick gets into his truck and shuts the door firmly>
A:Nick!
Cut to Bert crossing the street.
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The scene has it's cute moments. Nick is obviously trying throughout to get Amanda to admit that she did the job for Myers because she likes and worries about Nick. Amanda is trying hard to *not* admit any such thing. They work their way from being irritated with each other as it starts to playful in the middle to serious..and back to irritated.
Sadly, much of the dialog sounds forced and unnatural. They were pretty obviously trying for snappy back and forth repartee as they walked along. But Nick's delivery is a bit too slow and most of Amanda's lines sound falsely 'pert". It was a complaint I had throughout Raven..that EG was given too many lines that were merely smart ass (and frequently inappropriate) quips instead of really clever come-backs. Amanda ended up sounding like a doll tossing off random cliches.
Wendy(Next up..Passion Play. Truly *not* one of my favorites either.)
Fairy Killer
jjswbt@earthlink.net
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:44:06 -0500
From: "Claire L. Maier, Ph.D." <bioaw124@emory.edu>
Subject: Re: Female Immortals Redux
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Marian L. Zaouk wrote:
> Bridget said: (actually, we're way past due for this topic ;> )
>
> >That female Immortals (much snippage of some excellent points)
> > want to have to wear diapers *and* sanitary napkins (let's not even
> > get into the logistical problems of tampons) as strapped on by other
> > people?
Um, I've known females who had to wear diapers, and there is no point in
wearing diapers *and* sanitary napkins. Diapers alone will do just fine.
> Now, I don't have 5+ years of HighL archived, but I seem to recall
> that some said female immies had no menses? Since "Immortals," per
It's never been said in canon whether or not female immies menstruate. As
to fa theories, there has been a good deal of discussion on it, here and
on other forums-- it's a favorite deceased equine. We could haul out the
horsie zombie and the maggot-B-Gon again and go another round, if people
feel so inclined.
> se are a male creation, (now here's a reach, ;>) the monthly female
> cycle could be considered an 'illness' that becoming immortal
> cures? Or, possibly more of an anatomical nature - the expulsion of
> the product of the unfertilized ova is, in effect, a separation of
> tissue, which could be considered something to be 'cured' by the
> 'immortal' gene. Hmmmm- and the end result would have to be - that
> the next cycle occurring after the female 'dies' her first death
> would remain permanently on hold - no more ova, cuz there's one in
> suspended animation. Perhaps I should go to the on line archive -
> lazy me, but I will, I will! Does anyone know of an indexed by
> topic location?
You know, I think the "ovum in suspended animation" theory is actually
*new.* I'm impressed.
--
Claire Maier, Ph.D. bioaw124@emory.edu CLMaier (within AOL only)
To be different is not necessarily to be ugly;
to have a different idea is not necessarily to be wrong.
The worst possible thing is for all of us to begin
to look and act and think alike.
-- Gene Roddenberry
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