HIGHLA-L Digest - 24 Jan 2006 to 25 Jan 2006 - Special issue (#2006-16)
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There are 21 messages totalling 824 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. HL Alum HI Debbie!! (3)
2. HL DEBBIE!!! Alum HI Debbie!! (2)
3. Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!! (16)
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 07:09:26 +0200
From: TMar <tmar@polka.co.za>
Subject: Re: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
>(Does it bother anyone else to see Nick Knight lurking in the shadows
of "24" this season?)
Well, he can't very well stand in the sun! He'll burst into flames! :)
- Marina. (Are Forever Knight DVDs available yet?)
\\ "I'm like every other kid in America. We all ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// wanna be astronauts... 'to boldly go where || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ no man has gone before'." - Matt Sikes to ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// Cathy Frankel; Green Eyes (Alien Nation) || \\
\\===============tmar@polka.co.za===============|| //
//=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=============\\
"...fighting for what you believe in is important and that, sometimes,
the only thing that matters is that you *did* fight." - Keith Topping
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Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:33:15 -0600
From: Kamil <kamilaa@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: HL DEBBIE!!! Alum HI Debbie!!
On 1/24/06, TMar <tmar@polka.co.za> wrote:
> >(Does it bother anyone else to see Nick Knight lurking in the shadows
> of "24" this season?)
>Well, he can't very well stand in the sun! He'll burst into flames! :)
You mean he hasn't Shanshu'd yet? <g>
DEBBIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
Kamil (for God's sake, DEBBIE!!, show up and put Wendy out of her
DEBBIE!!! misery)(it's only the decent thing DEBBIE!!! to do)
The Wave: Do you read Gandalf slash?
Ian McKellan: Well, I'm quite a fan of pornography. I think it's a
very good idea. I think it stops people from going out and hurting
each other.
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:01:01 +0200
From: TMar <tmar@polka.co.za>
Subject: Re: HL DEBBIE!!! Alum HI Debbie!!
>You mean he hasn't Shanshu'd yet? <g>
Hee. If you recall your FK lore, only women can Shanshu.
"Leave it to her to attain what you've sought for so long, and in a way that
you have no hope of repeating." - LaCroix.
:)
- Marina. (Debbie, are you alive?)
\\ "I'm like every other kid in America. We all ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// wanna be astronauts... 'to boldly go where || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ no man has gone before'." - Matt Sikes to ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// Cathy Frankel; Green Eyes (Alien Nation) || \\
\\===============tmar@polka.co.za===============|| //
//=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=============\\
"...fighting for what you believe in is important and that, sometimes,
the only thing that matters is that you *did* fight." - Keith Topping
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:39:48 EST
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
In a message dated 1/25/2006 12:28:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tmar@polka.co.za writes:
>(Does it bother anyone else to see Nick Knight lurking in the shadows
of "24" this season?)
Well, he can't very well stand in the sun! He'll burst into flames! :)
The vampires apparently have immunity on "24." Otherwise Jack Bauer
(formerly David from LOST BOYS) would burn in the sun, as well.
Leah
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:23:03 +0200
From: TMar <tmar@polka.co.za>
Subject: Re: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
>The vampires apparently have immunity on "24." Otherwise Jack Bauer
>(formerly David from LOST BOYS) would burn in the sun, as well.
Hee. I'd forgotten about that. Must be an alternate universe. We know
that vampires
don't burn in the sun in alternate universes (see "Angel"). :)
- Marina.
\\ "I'm like every other kid in America. We all ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// wanna be astronauts... 'to boldly go where || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ no man has gone before'." - Matt Sikes to ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// Cathy Frankel; Green Eyes (Alien Nation) || \\
\\===============tmar@polka.co.za===============|| //
//=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=============\\
"...fighting for what you believe in is important and that, sometimes,
the only thing that matters is that you *did* fight." - Keith Topping
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:34:41 -0500
From: Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
Subject: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
Marina said:
> Well, he can't very well stand in the sun! He'll burst into flames! :)
Very true. Although it is possible that he's a Wolfram & Hart client and
is protected from such minor inconveniences as that.
> (Are Forever Knight DVDs available yet?)
Seasons One and Two are available in America. Don't know about the far
reaches of the planet <eg>
Kamil adds:
>You mean he hasn't Shanshu'd yet? <g>
I thought only Spike was going to do that? If just anyone can Shanshu,
it isn't special.
Marina has her own opinion:
>Hee. If you recall your FK lore, only women can Shanshu.
Well, if Nick has even a normal measure of restraint, he mighty have
managed. But *no*, he's always Mr. Once I Start Sucking I Can't Stop.
Leah adds:
>The vampires apparently have immunity on "24." Otherwise Jack Bauer
>(formerly David from LOST BOYS) would burn in the sun, as well.
Maybe it's something in the LA sun? (Being a vampire *could* explain why
Jack has come back from the dead so many times)(And how he recovers so
fast from being beaten, stabbed, shot, poisoned, electrocuted, thrown
from moving cars, dropped out of helicopters and planes, beaten some
more, etc etc etc)
Wendy(See, Debbie?)(Everyone wants you to speak up)(800+ tortured HIGHLA
souls call out for justice)(You can end their pain.)(Just appear and
give me what I want)
Immortals Inc.
immortals_incorporated@cox.net
"Weasels for Eternity"
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:30:16 +0200
From: TMar <tmar@polka.co.za>
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
>Very true. Although it is possible that he's a Wolfram & Hart client
and is
>protected from such minor inconveniences as that.
But all W&H can do is provide him with necro-tempered glass, not make him
immune!!
>Seasons One and Two are available in America. Don't know about the far
reaches
>of the planet <eg>
Apparently the Bits might be getting HL, because it's advertised as
"coming soon" on
a local online DVD store. Which makes sense, since we got HL here. But
FK I had
to get from a friend in the States.
>I thought only Spike was going to do that? If just anyone can Shanshu, it
>isn't special.
Nick only *thinks* you can Shanshu, but in the FK universe you really can't.
Unless you have a baby. And I don't see any Xyrillians around for him to
play in pebbles with.
>Well, if Nick has even a normal measure of restraint, he mighty have
managed.
>But *no*, he's always Mr. Once I Start Sucking I Can't Stop.
Too much sucking going on! DEBBIE! You can't WANT us to talk about sucking
on this list?!
Nick had worse impulse control than Spike. Heck, he had worse impulse
control
than Angelus, and that's really saying something!
>Maybe it's something in the LA sun? (Being a vampire *could* explain
why Jack
>has come back from the dead so many times)(And how he recovers so fast
from
>being beaten, stabbed, shot, poisoned, electrocuted, thrown from
moving cars,
>dropped out of helicopters and planes, beaten some more, etc etc etc)
He could just be an Immortal. :)
>(800+ tortured HIGHLA souls call out for justice)
There are seriously still 800 people on the list? I would have thought
Nina would have
driven them all away by now. Except those of us who are:
a) people who promised Debbie not to leave
b) masochists
c) weasels
d) minions of weasels
e) doing a sociology experiment to see how much abuse people can take.
Let's play! Which of the above are you (you all on the list, not just
Wendy)?
- Marina.
\\ "I'm like every other kid in America. We all ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// wanna be astronauts... 'to boldly go where || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ no man has gone before'." - Matt Sikes to ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// Cathy Frankel; Green Eyes (Alien Nation) || \\
\\===============tmar@polka.co.za===============|| //
//=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=============\\
"...fighting for what you believe in is important and that, sometimes,
the only thing that matters is that you *did* fight." - Keith Topping
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:52:25 -0500
From: Lisa Cameron-Norfleet <cgliser@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
> >(800+ tortured HIGHLA souls call out for justice)
Marina:
>There are seriously still 800 people on the list? I would have
>thought Nina would have
>driven them all away by now. Except those of us who are:
>a) people who promised Debbie not to leave
>b) masochists
>c) weasels
>d) minions of weasels
>e) doing a sociology experiment to see how much abuse people can take.
>
>Let's play! Which of the above are you (you all on the list, not just Wendy)?
B. I am totally B.
Liser
(you people are weird)(that brings me comfort in these troubling
times)(but, good lord, debbie, PLEASE give Wendy the archives so
she'll shut up about them already!)
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:59:32 EST
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
In a message dated 1/25/2006 1:54:38 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
cgliser@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
>>I would have
>thought Nina would have
>driven them all away by now.
[I have inserted emoticons here but they may not show up, together they
would read: "you coulda fooled me"
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:00:26 -0000
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
From: "TMar" <tmar@POLKA.CO.ZA>
> There are seriously still 800 people on the list? I would have thought
> Nina would have
> driven them all away by now. Except those of us who are:
> a) people who promised Debbie not to leave
> b) masochists
> c) weasels
> d) minions of weasels
> e) doing a sociology experiment to see how much abuse people can take.
Ever hear of killfiles? They even work with mailing lists.
:-)
Jette Goldie
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:25:49 -0500
From: Wendy <Immortals_Incorporated@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
> >Although it is possible that he's a Wolfram &
> Hart client and is protected from such minor inconveniences as that.
Marina:
> But all W&H can do is provide him with necro-tempered glass,
> not make him immune!!
Do we know that for sure? Maybe he made a better deal that Angel did!
>>I thought only Spike was going to do that? If just anyone
> can Shanshu, it >isn't special.
> Nick only *thinks* you can Shanshu, but in the FK universe
> you really can't. Unless you have a baby. And I don't see
> any Xyrillians around for him to play in pebbles with.
Well, you'd know best. My knowledge of FK is moderate, not fanatical. I
thought you got to be mortal again by 1) being in love with a mortal, 2)
taking blood during sex but not too much and 3) some great soul-rending
trauma. I must have missed the baby part.
> >(800+ tortured HIGHLA souls call out for justice)
>
> Except those of us who are:
> a) people who promised Debbie not to leave
> b) masochists
> c) weasels
> d) minions of weasels
> e) doing a sociology experiment to see how much abuse people can take.
Of course I qualify as: a, b, c and e.
Wendy(Why oh why has Debbie forsaken us?)(Do we need to make a sacrifice
to bring her back?)(Who can we sacrifice?)(If we need the blood of an
innocent, we're in trouble)(Debbie!)(Crawl to the keyboard and say
*something*!)(Sheesh)(I could get a faster response out of FEMA.)
Immortals Inc.
immortals_incorporated@cox.net
"Weasels for Eternity"
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:30:22 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
Dorothy--
> [I have inserted emoticons here but they may not show up, together they
> would read: "you coulda fooled me"
Don't you have a new encyclical to memorize, so you'll know how to think
about everything? Including which TV shows are fit to be aired, of course.
Marina--
>>>There are seriously still 800 people on the list? I would have thought
Nina would have
driven them all away by now. Except those of us who are:
a) people who promised Debbie not to leave
b) masochists
c) weasels
d) minions of weasels
e) doing a sociology experiment to see how much abuse people can take.>>>
You forgot your own special category--
f) criminals or kindergartners
>>>Wendy(See, Debbie?)(Everyone wants you to speak up)(800+ tortured HIGHLA
souls call out for justice)(You can end their pain.)(Just appear and
give me what I want)>>>
OK, let's cut to the chase--
"Prude!"
"Pervert!"
"Bitch!"
"Nazi!"
Now, Debbie, it's your turn.
Nina (maybe Debbie was on Oceanic Flight 815) (but now we know there's a
working computer on the island, that's really no excuse)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 14:43:11 EST
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
In a message dated 1/25/2006 2:31:33 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
mac.westie@verizon.net writes:
>>Don't you have a new encyclical to memorize, so you'll know how to think
about everything? Including which TV shows are fit to be aired, of course.
Nah. Not a knee jerk/memorizing type :).
I do, however, reserve the right to continue to have opinions that may
differ from yours including about tv shows I think sub par [note to those who
didn't get the jibe above, NBC's The Book of Daniel was just cancelled this week
after only 4 episodes aired. Those of us who deemed it rank, feel justified :)
....especially those of us who made up our very own minds based on content
and quality [or in this case non quality] considerations, not an agenda].
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:04:22 -0500
From: Gregory Mate <gmate@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
TMar <tmar@polka.co.za> and others wrote:
>Nick only *thinks* you can Shanshu, but in the FK universe you really can't.
>Unless you have a baby. And I don't see any Xyrillians around for him to
>play in pebbles with.
Anyone can Shanshu as long as you get the Shu-Shan Man on the street corner to give your Shu's a nice bright Shan.
>Well, if Nick has even a normal measure of restraint, he mighty have
managed.
>But *no*, he's always Mr. Once I Start Sucking I Can't Stop.
Sounds like the epitaph of FK's and HL's final seasons.
>Maybe it's something in the LA sun? (Being a vampire *could* explain
why Jack
>has come back from the dead so many times)(And how he recovers so fast
from
>being beaten, stabbed, shot, poisoned, electrocuted, thrown from
moving cars,
>dropped out of helicopters and planes, beaten some more, etc etc etc)
Personally I think it's from all the drinking and running into Christmas trees full tilt. Oh, wait, you mean the *character*...
>There are seriously still 800 people on the list? I would have thought
>Nina would have driven them all away by now. Except those of us who are:
>a) people who promised Debbie not to leave
>b) masochists
>c) weasels
>d) minions of weasels
>e) doing a sociology experiment to see how much abuse people can take.
>Let's play! Which of the above are you (you all on the list, not just Wendy)?
Bah! A little acerbity is just what we need. As Sam Kineson was to comedy, so are Nina's posts to the List.
....Greg....
gmate@rogers.com
"I was just talking to some girl about bdsm. Turns out she thought I meant Buddhism." - bash.org
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:04:22 +0200
From: TMar <tmar@polka.co.za>
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
>Ever hear of killfiles? They even work with mailing lists.
Who needs killfiles? A delete key works too! :)
- Marina. (Who is still trying to figure out her new email program.)
(Killfiles? We don't need no stinking killfiles!!)
\\ "I'm like every other kid in America. We all ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// wanna be astronauts... 'to boldly go where || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ no man has gone before'." - Matt Sikes to ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// Cathy Frankel; Green Eyes (Alien Nation) || \\
\\===============tmar@polka.co.za===============|| //
//=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=============\\
"...fighting for what you believe in is important and that, sometimes,
the only thing that matters is that you *did* fight." - Keith Topping
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:10:14 +0200
From: TMar <tmar@polka.co.za>
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
>Do we know that for sure? Maybe he made a better deal that Angel did!
Well, Angel was never exactly the brightest bulb on the chandelier. :)
>Well, you'd know best. My knowledge of FK is moderate, not fanatical.
I thought
>you got to be mortal again by 1) being in love with a mortal, 2)
taking blood during
>sex but not too much and 3) some great soul-rending trauma. I must
have missed the
>baby part.
Oh, that was in another episode... "Baby, Baby" if memory serves. Where
you needed
to mate with a special man (XYY) and have a baby in order to become
mortal. Whether
Janette's cure of 'only take a little at a time' would work on other
vampires is debatable...
it would never work for Nick. Like you said, he's just
Mister-Suck-It-All-While-The
Sucking-Is-Good. And that sounds really bad! :)
>Of course I qualify as: a, b, c and e.
I qualify as a, b, and possibly d. Do I look like I could be a minion?
*Marina strikes hopeful
pose* . Someone on another list told me I was cruel. That's gotta count
for slight weasel
minion-ness. Unless I have to be cruel on *this* list?
- Marina. (Are we all bored today?)
\\ "I'm like every other kid in America. We all ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// wanna be astronauts... 'to boldly go where || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ no man has gone before'." - Matt Sikes to ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// Cathy Frankel; Green Eyes (Alien Nation) || \\
\\===============tmar@polka.co.za===============|| //
//=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=============\\
"...fighting for what you believe in is important and that, sometimes,
the only thing that matters is that you *did* fight." - Keith Topping
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:30:24 -0500
From: Dianne Trautmann <diannet@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
Definitely B.
(I rewatch Endgame when things get too quiet on the list.)
DEBBIE save us from the Weasel. Give her what she wants and no one will
get hurt. Wait a minute, if I said B, maybe I don't really want that to
happen. DEBBIE, help!
Dianne Trautmann
lurking.....
> > >(800+ tortured HIGHLA souls call out for justice)
>
> Marina:
>
> >There are seriously still 800 people on the list? I would have
> >thought Nina would have
> >driven them all away by now. Except those of us who are:
> >a) people who promised Debbie not to leave
> >b) masochists
> >c) weasels
> >d) minions of weasels
> >e) doing a sociology experiment to see how much abuse people can take.
> >
> >Let's play! Which of the above are you (you all on the list, not just
Wendy)?
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:22:04 -0600
From: Nora Jones <nora.jones@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
I suppose if anything, I would be closest to E. Experiments and research -- yep, that's my thing. (There really should be an F category -- none of the above.)
-- Nora (Isn't this looking like a roll call?)(Debbie, are roll calls allowed on this list?)(I've forgotten.)(Of course, it could be I never knew.)(Even though I suffer horribly from CRS,...)(actually, it's others I cause to suffer because of it...)(I seem to recall many complaints here about some great red-headed roll call...)(Debbie, I'm sure you don't want many complaints to arise from these abuses.)(You really should arise, whip in hand, and see to this problem before it gets out of hand!)
-----
Dianne Trautmann <diannet@optonline.net> wrote:
>Definitely B.
>
>(I rewatch Endgame when things get too quiet on the list.)
>DEBBIE save us from the Weasel. Give her what she wants and no one will
>get hurt. Wait a minute, if I said B, maybe I don't really want that to
>happen. DEBBIE, help!
>
>Dianne Trautmann
>lurking.....
>
>
>> > >(800+ tortured HIGHLA souls call out for justice)
>>
>> Marina:
>>
>> >There are seriously still 800 people on the list? I would have
>> >thought Nina would have
>> >driven them all away by now. Except those of us who are:
>> >a) people who promised Debbie not to leave
>> >b) masochists
>> >c) weasels
>> >d) minions of weasels
>> >e) doing a sociology experiment to see how much abuse people can take.
>> >
>> >Let's play! Which of the above are you (you all on the list, not just
>Wendy)?
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:24:46 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
Dorothy gloats--
> I do, however, reserve the right to continue to have opinions that may
> differ from yours including about tv shows I think sub par [note to those
> who
> didn't get the jibe above, NBC's The Book of Daniel was just cancelled
> this week
> after only 4 episodes aired. Those of us who deemed it rank, feel
> justified :)
Justified in your TV taste? Or in your religious views? Or in imposing
them on everyone? Because the whole brouhaha over this TV show makes you &
yours look ridiculous. But congratulations. Nice job w/ the censorship!
Nina (my Friday nights belong to Battlestar Galactica anyway) (Cylons are
deeply religious) (their God would never be portrayed as accessible,
compassionate, supportive, forgiving & a good listener, so BG should be
safe) (Debbie!!!!!!!!!!!)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:08:33 -0600
From: Nora Jones <nora.jones@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
>TMar <tmar@polka.co.za> and others wrote:
>>Nick only *thinks* you can Shanshu, but in the FK universe you really can't.
> >Unless you have a baby. And I don't see any Xyrillians around for him to
> >play in pebbles with.
Gregory Mate <gmate@rogers.com> replied:
> Anyone can Shanshu as long as you get the Shu-Shan Man on the street corner to give your Shu's a nice bright Shan.
LOL LOL! I was only quasi following comments about Shanshu-ing cuz I wasn't into the FK universe or the Buffyverse and all that other vampire stuff, but this explains it all.
Elsewhere, Wendy Weasel whispered:
><snip>(Sheesh)(I could get a faster response out of FEMA.)
Debbie -- now things are bordering on *politics*!?! We've had religion, canadians, sucking, roll calls, and now POLITICS!?! Debbie, please come put a stop to these abuses. Give Her Weaselness what she needs.
-- Nora (back to the salt mines)
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Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 22:24:33 -0000
From: John Mosby - Laptop <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
Nina opines:
> Justified in your TV taste? Or in your religious views? Or in imposing
> them on everyone? Because the whole brouhaha over this TV show makes you
> & yours look ridiculous. But congratulations. Nice job w/ the
> censorship!
I think it's everyone's right to be happy when a show they actively,
passionately like is kept on air or when a show they actively, pasionately
hate is taken of air. It's also everyone's right (as Nina so gloriously
demonstrates every time she sits at a keyboard and feels the blod pumping to
her fingers) to have whichever those opinions they desire and to express
that emotion. I doing so, you accept that others don't share your view. If
all we got was wall to wall Disney channels it would be just as scary a
world as wall to wall Tarantino.
I very rarely call for any show to be banned, though there have been several
I think utterly shame their creators and play to the lowest common
denomenator of the viewing public. Usually i record numbers. I'm
uncomfortable with calls for actual bans and I think boycotts are rarely
workable and if we admit that we all have differing tastes, then I have no
desire to take away anyone's right to watch whatever they want (as long as
it doesn't break the law). Ultimately, I'll simply turn off/over my remote I
dislike a program, but I reserve the right to lambast it to anyone who'll
listen if I feel persnickety about it. Don't even get me started on Fox
News!
But there has been an intersting point raised here. I'm all for having fun
and humour about religion and race as long as it's somewhat clever ie:
satricial at concepts rather than merely racist or spiteful. For example:
The KKK aren't funny, but there's jokes to be ame at their expense and how
many Jewish people think Jackie Mason is a racist beause of his style? It's
all about context and intent and timing. I haven't seen The Book of Daniel,
so I can't common that specifically, but it's always been my view that large
religious institutions should be able to handle the slings and arrows of
outrageous satire. Any God I believe in can surely take a joke. Life of
Brian is inherently hilarious because it's NOT about Christ, it's about the
nature of humans and building a fledgling *religion*. But it is worrisome
that we feel free to satirise Christianity but live in fear of offending
Muslims, Jews, *insert religion of choice* and could literally be taken to
court for it given new legislation.
There's a time and purpose (could be a porpoise, which would explain a lot)
for everything under heaven and in the TV schedules. The difference is that
on TV, it's the public and the advertising that bring judgement day earlier
and earlier. Though I wish some hadn't made it off the pag, I'm willing to
give any show around five episodes to get an audience it deserves - as long
as I can scream praise or shout distaste all the way.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "MacWestie" <mac.westie@verizon.net>
To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [HL] Debbie? Debbie? RE: HL Alum HI Debbie!!
> Dorothy gloats--
>> I do, however, reserve the right to continue to have opinions that may
>> differ from yours including about tv shows I think sub par [note to those
>> who
>> didn't get the jibe above, NBC's The Book of Daniel was just cancelled
>> this week
>> after only 4 episodes aired. Those of us who deemed it rank, feel
>> justified :)
>
> Justified in your TV taste? Or in your religious views? Or in imposing
> them on everyone? Because the whole brouhaha over this TV show makes you
> & yours look ridiculous. But congratulations. Nice job w/ the
> censorship!
>
> Nina (my Friday nights belong to Battlestar Galactica anyway) (Cylons are
> deeply religious) (their God would never be portrayed as accessible,
> compassionate, supportive, forgiving & a good listener, so BG should be
> safe) (Debbie!!!!!!!!!!!)
> mac.westie@verizon.net
>
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