There is one message totalling 258 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Season Three dvds: Blind Faith ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:06:59 -0400 From: kageorge <kageorge@erols.com> Subject: Season Three dvds: Blind Faith COMMENTARY: Gillian tells us that the original common story line of the Highlander series was that Duncan would run into an old enemy, there would be some kind of conflict, and by the end of the episode Duncan would have whacked him. By the end of season two, they had modified the concept by having Duncan run into an old friend who had turned evil and - reluctantly - Duncan would have to kill him. In "Blind Faith", they did a reverse twist on that and had Duncan run into an old enemy, only to realize the enemy is no longer evil, and he has to *not* kill him. Bill Panzer says that the concept of a bad person who does bad things - not one crazy weekend in college, but for centuries - and then after a long absence the person appears again and they are a spiritual healer and a force for good, your first reaction is going to be "this is a load of crap." To overcome those original views of the person is probably easier in a normal life span, but it would be particularly difficult for MacLeod, who saw these major atrocities committed for so long, to decide whether the character's redemption is really true. And even supposing it might be true, does MacLeod kill for what he's done in the past, or does he deserve to be given a chance to atone for the next few hundred years? He says they filmed two different endings, but they decided that the idea that redemption was possible was the one MacLeod would chose. David A. says that the idea of "Blind Faith" - about whether redemption was possible - was one of his favorites, that the episode was pretty good and was acted well, but he feels he could have written the story a little better to make it a little more exciting. At its best, he says, Highlander answers such questions in the context of action/adventure. He jokingly says that sometimes he believes redemption is possible and sometimes not, depending on who it is and the circumstances. For instance, if it is some studio executive giving him notes he doesn't want to hear, he would say redemption is not possible and that "they should burn in hell." But if it is someone who likes the script and they only pissed on his work yesterday and they liked it today, then he figures maybe they don't have to burn in hell, that they can be redeemed. Then he turned serious and said that whether redemption is possible in all instances is one of the great questions of the age, and talks about his Talmudic studies. The passage "where God hardened Pharaoh's heart" about letting the Hebrews go was one that always bothered him. Why is God stacking the deck, he asks. But someone "very wise" once said to him that some sins are irredeemable, which is why at the end of the episode, Duncan lets Kirin live, but doesn't forgive him, expressing his view by saying, in Duncan's view: "Look, I'm still pissed at you. I don't want to be your friend, but I' m not going to judge you." Because, Abramowitz says, "I don't think Duncan knows how." He says Duncan truly believed that Kirin was redeemed in some way, but being redeemed doesn't mean you're not guilty, or that you don't have to pay for what you did. Gillian: "Why doesn't he kill him?" She opines that Duncan feels that living a good life doesn't matter, if what you are doing now is hurting other people; and if that is so, the flip side must also be true. OUTTAKES: None, which was disappointing. They should have shown us that alternate ending. EPISODE: We first meet John Kirin giving money and sandwiches to the homeless. He ends up saving the life of one of his helpers (Matthew) by pushing him out of the path of a speeding car, getting hit himself. He dies in the Emergency Room while under Dr. Anne's care, but revives, with his followers proclaiming it a miracle. Anne tells MacLeod about the remarkable event, and MacLeod investigates. He and Richie find Kirin at some kind of multi-denominational ashram, as Matthew is throwing a reporter out of the building. When Duncan sees who it is, he gets very grim, and we get a flashback to the Spanish Civil War, in 1937, where Duncan is a reporter, with the troops fighting against Franco. Kirin (then known as Cage) is there, supposedly as a photographer. But Kirin ends up betraying them to the enemy in return for money, and the young idealistic fighters Duncan has come to know and like are all shot rather than taken to a POW camp because, as Kirin says, "it's cheaper than feeding them." MacLeod tries to help them escape, carrying a wounded man on his back for miles, but the boy dies anyway. Back in the present, Kirin is all calm beneficence. Duncan asks him where the profit is in his current enterprise, but Kirin insists he's "not the man I was." Duncan invites him to "step off holy ground and find out" but Kirin says he doesn't fight anymore. Duncan and Richie leave, and Matthew is worried, saying Kirin is "too good. You can't see it. He wants to hurt you," and it is obvious that Matthew is a little unbalanced in his fanatic devotion to his hero, John Kirin. At Joe's bar, with some nice live blues playing in the background, Richie and Joe talk about Kirin, and Joe tells Richie that whatever Kirin is doing now, he has hundreds of pages of history on the man, that he is a "liar and a murdering son of a bitch." Duncan insists it is because of the money, that the day after Kirin "rose from the dead" his church collected a quarter of a million in donations, that Kirin's actions are always about money. But in a conversation with Anne (while Duncan beats her at chess), she tells him she heard that Kirin gave most of the money back to charity. We get another flashback, this time to Cambodia in 1975, where Duncan is trying to help a dozen or so children and the nun who cares for them. They are caught in the middle of a battle, and the plane that was to take them to safety has been bombed. A helicopter arrives, and Duncan tries to commandeer it, but it belongs to Kirin who is running drugs in the midst of the war. After threatening to kill the children himself if Duncan interferes, they take off. Duncan is running at the helicopter, screaming at him to stop when he is hit by a mortar round and is killed. Duncan goes to see Kirin, inviting him to "take a walk", and over Matthew's strong protest, Kirin agrees. They end up in a small garden enclave, with Kirin saying he now has so much to teach people about redemption and forgiveness. "And you're the expert," Duncan replies in anger. Kirin tells Duncan that he studied with the Buddhist monks in the near east, that he had many teachers in many religions, that John Cage died when he became Kirin. "And you became God!" Duncan yells. "We don't play God!" He tells him, "We don't have the answers!" and that they don't do miracles. Kirin insists he didn't plan on coming back to life in front of anyone, that he is using his immortality to try to do good in the world, but Duncan insists that everything Kirin says is a lie. "Maybe God has forgiven you," Duncan ends the conversation abruptly, "but I sure haven't." The reporter who Matthew had earlier thrown out of the ashram follows Duncan, wanting to know what he knows about Kirin. In the meantime, Anne is meeting with Kirin to thank him for a contribution to the children's wing of the hospital, but she also wants to investigate why he is even alive, but Kirin says "some things are best left alone." The reporter sneaks into the dojo, looking for a connection between MacLeod and Kirin, but Matthew is there (we are to assume, I think, that he is there because he thinks Duncan is a threat to Kirin). Matthew kills the reporter. After the police leave, Duncan is grim, believing that Kirin had killed the reporter "and dropped him on my doorstep," that the reporter had died because Duncan hadn't killed Kirin right off the bat and that Kirin was toying with him. Back at the ashram, as Kirin gets ready to leave to meet MacLeod, he tells Matthew that "whatever it is you wish to become, you already are." Matthew insists that he has no life with out Kirin, but Kirin tells him he must find one. In their meeting, Kirin insists he didn't kill the reporter. Duncan doesn't believe him, asking him if the charade hasn't gone on long enough. Duncan is ready to kill him, full of fury, saying that he'll kill Kirin even if Kirin refuses to fight. "If you've judged me," Kirin says, "then that's what I deserve." "I don't judge you, Cage. The children you left to die and the men you betrayed and murdered do that," Duncan answers. Kirin tells Duncan that, in Cambodia, he came back looking for Duncan, to kill him. "In my life, I've seen much horror," he says, "much destruction. With every war I grew harder and harder inside, but with this one, this time..." And we see a flashback to the helicopter landing, and Kirin walking among the graves of the children, each marked with a small homemade cross (we assume made by Duncan), and decorated with the bloodied remains of their clothes. Kirin falls to his knees with a cry. Back in the present, Kirin is weeping, "But the children, what they did to the children!" "I was there!" Duncan is barely able to say, and tries to force Kirin to fight him, even hitting him across the face. But Kirin just goes to his knees. "Do as you must," Kirin says, his arms spread. Duncan is distraught, turning away with a cry of frustration, but he turns back and nods. "Then I will. I will!" he yells, and swings but the katana ends up hitting the ground, with Duncan going to his knees, too. Kirin slowly stands. "You are the better man, MacLeod. You always were." He gently touches Duncan on the shoulder and leaves. Duncan goes to Joe's, and Joe isn't convinced that Kirin didn't deserve to die. "He was willing to die rather than fight me," Duncan tells Joe. "All that means is that he's a good judge of character," Joe replies, but Duncan says it wasn't up to him to judge Kirin. Joe acknowledges that even if Cage/Kirin had changed, "I don't see how 20 years of good deeds even begins to cover his tab," Joe insists. "Well, maybe it doesn't," Duncan sighs. "But I'm not going to be the one to decide." "Well, if you're not, then who is? You know what he was. Who better than you to judge him?" "One Immortal playing God is enough." The last part of the episode is about Matthew, who had followed Kirin to his meeting with MacLeod, and who sneaks into the loft. Duncan senses that Matthew is there before he sees him ("The money is on the table," he sighs tiredly. "Take it and get out.") But Matthew's hero-worship of Kirin was the only thing that he had had to cling to, and after admitting he had killed the reporter, he insists on knowing about the murdered children that Kirin and Duncan had talked about. Kirin arrives and tries to diffuse the situation. Matthew is confused and unbalanced. Kirin says he has called the police because he knew Matthew had killed the reporter (and, by implication, that he figured Matthew was on his way to kill MacLeod, as well). Kirin tries to get Matthew to give himself up, but Matthew feels betrayed, and when Kirin tries to take the gun, Matthew ends up killing Kirin. The police arrive, and despite Duncan's effort to intervene ("Didn't he [Kirin] teach you that nobody was beyond redemption?"), Matthew clearly wants to die ("I loved him and I killed him!"). Matthew throws himself out the front door in front of the police, deliberately drawing their fire, and he is killed. In a final scene, Kirin is standing with Duncan by Duncan's car, carrying a suitcase. He tells Duncan that Matthew's death was his fault. "My redemption caused two people to die." He extends his hand, expressing the thought that they might meet again someday, and that they might even be friends. Duncan looks at Kirin's extended hand for a moment before he finally takes it. "You better get going," he says, and Kirin walks away down the road. MY COMMENTS: This is an important episode because of its theme, a thread that runs throughout the entire series, getting deeper and more complex through the seasons as we deal with it again in the Horsemen episodes, and again in Forgive Us Our Trespasses, and as a sub-theme in a number of other episodes. While the scenes are a little uneven (the ones with Anne tended to look like they were inserted as place markers to keep Anne in the story, or as convenient exposition), several of them have real emotional impact. The confrontation between Duncan and Kirin when Duncan can't bring himself to kill a man who refused to defend himself was intense. Duncan's strong need for closure, for vengeance for the deaths he personally knew Kirin had caused, was well played and understandable, but that need was irreconcilable with his concurrent belief that he couldn't kill someone who didn't fight back, especially someone whose actions in the present day were demonstrably attempts to do good. All that is also colored by Duncan's own sense that he has done some pretty awful things in his own life, and has hoped that, in some way, trying to live a good life has redeemed those sins. We also see an interesting view of Joe, who expresses the view that Kirin's 20-year stint at doing good cannot balance the scales against hundreds of years of deliberate, conscious atrocities, yet when it came to Methos' thousands of years of similar acts, Joe argued the opposite. But Joe had only known the present-day Methos, considered Methos a personal friend, and put Methos' actions in the same category as the kinds of war-time atrocities Joe saw in Vietnam - which was (frankly) a specious and irrelevant analogy, IMO. Certainly it increases the complexity of these characters and demonstrates Duncan's reluctance to judge others - a situation he found himself in all too often and which, over the next three years of episodes, played an important role in eroding his own belief systems to the point where, by the end of Season Six he hardly knew who he was anymore. It was this kind of thematic underpinning of the series that, IMO, make it interesting and still worthy of conversations, even so long after the show was off the air. MacGeorge ------------------------------ End of HIGHLA-L Digest - 10 Apr 2004 to 12 Apr 2004 (#2004-67) **************************************************************