There are 4 messages totalling 337 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Walkabout Reports (3) 2. Season Two dvds: Prodigal Son ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 09:56:10 EST From: Dotiran@aol.com Subject: Walkabout Reports I've saved all the major posts from the Holyground forum about the Walkabout Event this past weekend in a Word document. If anyone wants a copy I'd be happy to send it along. Just email me at Dotiran@aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 10:26:52 -0500 From: kageorge <kageorge@erols.com> Subject: Re: Walkabout Reports I'd love to have a copy. MacGeorge ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dotiran@aol.com> To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 9:56 AM Subject: [HL] Walkabout Reports > I've saved all the major posts from the Holyground forum about the Walkabout > Event this past weekend in a Word document. If anyone wants a copy I'd be > happy to send it along. Just email me at Dotiran@aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 11:27:18 -0500 From: kageorge <kageorge@erols.com> Subject: Re: Walkabout Reports Oops. Apologies. That should have been offlist. MacG ----- Original Message ----- From: "kageorge" <kageorge@EROLS.COM> To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [HL] Walkabout Reports > I'd love to have a copy. > > MacGeorge > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Dotiran@aol.com> > To: <HIGHLA-L@LISTS.PSU.EDU> > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 9:56 AM > Subject: [HL] Walkabout Reports > > > > I've saved all the major posts from the Holyground forum about the > Walkabout > > Event this past weekend in a Word document. If anyone wants a copy I'd be > > happy to send it along. Just email me at Dotiran@aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 18:25:20 -0500 From: kageorge <kageorge@erols.com> Subject: Season Two dvds: Prodigal Son COMMENTARY: Bill Panzer says that Richie has been gone for a few months, and now he's a little more experienced, gotten a little more of an attitude, taken a couple of heads, but he's still glad to see MacLeod. One of the interesting things about immortality is that events repeat themselves, but these characters are still alive, giving rise to a parallel story. MacLeod was being used by Hyde to track Connor, and Richie is being used hundreds of years later to track Duncan. One of BP's favorite shots in all of HL is at the end of this episode, when Richie and Duncan sit on the steps, drinking a bottle of impossibly old cognac, bonding together, now closer to each other as Richie has grown up a little bit. Dennis Barry, BP reports, is very fond of not turning off the camera. So they finished the scene, and he left the camera on. SK and AP stayed in character, and finally the two of them looked at each other, laughed, and it is one of the nicest and totally unscripted moments in Highlander. OUTTAKE: There are several clips shown. The first is the camera on Duncan as he first confronts Hyde under the bridge by the barge. It answers the question where he stores his katana when he's only wearing a sport coat. As Hyde circles around him, a prop guy moves in and the handoff between him and AP is as smooth as a 400-relay runner. Poof, he's got the sword. The second clip is of the flashback, when we see Duncan in full kilt and baldrick and a long, thick wig. Gillian Horvath says that the scene is classic Dennis Barry, complete with lots of fog machines, and we hear AP saying, "Well now we can't see anything, Dennis!" Then we see AP kneeling in the grass, and he asks Dennis Barry several times whether he wants him to "fall into it" (ie., the shot when he gets thrown to the ground, and it sounds a little like he knows more about what the scene is supposed to be than the director does). Finally he does fall, there's a fight scene with Hyde, who throws him to the ground. AP rolls onto his back, laughing, spitting out dirt and leaves, because all the leaves and muck have stuck into the wig, partially pulling it off. Another bit shown is Hyde holding Duncan with his sword at his throat, with Duncan telling him to go ahead and kill him, that he'd rather die than give up Connor to him. Hyde throws him down and kicks him, saying he's not worth the trouble. Again AP starts to get up... and his wig falls off (again). As he rolls over we also get a full view of what AP wears under the kilt. Finally, there is a clip of Duncan and Richie talking on the barge, when Duncan gives him the bottle of cognac and tells him to meet him at the bridge after his fight with Hyde and they will drink it together. Right in the middle of the scene, a tourist boat goes by, complete with bright lights and loudspeakers pointing out the Highlander film crew and tourists yelling hello at them. Somehow, AP and SK manage to stay in character and finish the scene. After the director finally yells "Cut!", you hear Adrian say with a growl, "Great boat!" EPISODE: The episode opens with Richie on a motorcycle pulling into a gas station, looking like hell. He goes into the convenience store for some coffee, and the lady behind the counter is very kind to him. He feels an Immortal nearby and goes and grabs his sword, looking for whoever it is. Then he finds the gas station owner killed with a sword, saying, "Oh, no, not again!" The lady comes out screaming that Richie killed him, and he runs, and we see a black Porsche follow. The barge is parked back by Notre Dam and Maurice is making himself annoying by critiquing MacLeod's polishing the barge's fixtures. Richie shows up, and the atmosphere between he and Mac is a little tense, with Richie looking like he's not certain of his welcome. They go inside and Richie talks about where he went and what he did after he left Mac. Everything went well until he went to Spain, and he started being stalked by another Immortal, who was killing people with a sword and framing him for the crime. Mac looks contemplative as Richie tells the story, especially when Richie says that the only think he could think of to do was to come to Mac. "And he followed you and killed again?" he asks. FLASHBACK: We see young, long-tressed, barbarian Duncan in the woods. He finds a body with a piece of MacLeod tartan clutched in his hand, and murmurs, "Not again!" He rides off, stopping peasants and asking them if they've seen Connor MacLeod, but then he feels another Immortal who calls out, "Have you found him yet?" It is Martin Hyde (also wearing a long (bad) wig), who is looking for Connor MacLeod. They fight and Hyde knocks Duncan off his horse, saying, "You're nobody!" He disarms and easily defeats Duncan, and when Duncan tells him he'd rather die than give up Connor, Hyde just throws him to the ground, saying he might be worth fighting, "in a century or two." Back in the present, Hyde (minus the wig) confronts Maurice, getting the information out of him about who owns the barge and that Richie is there, then Hyde calls the police with an anonymous tip. Mac says there's no way Richie could have known that he was doing just as Hyde wanted, and tells Richie he should sleep while Mac keeps watch. "Just because a relationship changes doesn't mean it ends. Even the best of friends don't always have to agree on everything. When you're in Paris you can stay with me." After a few awkward words and pauses, Mac says, "I know. I missed you, too...tough guy," and they laugh and shake hands then hug. Just then the police show up and Richie dashes out, but he's stopped, almost crashing the bike. SIDEBAR: This is a nice moment between Duncan and Richie, and they both seem genuinely relieved that the old tension between them is resolved. But the whole thing about the arrest was an ugly plothole. They rush up, grab Richie, take his sword and put the sword in the same seat they've got Richie in, and drive away, tires squealing, as Mac stands on the barge and watches. Horrible police procedure and dumb not to at least leave someone behind to question the man on the barge where Richie had just come running from. I hate when they make stupid, obvious errors like that, especially on the heels of an important emotional denouement.] Richie is identified by the woman at the gas station in a line up and booked for murder. Duncan goes to see the lady inspector who arrested him and tries to convince her that Richie didn't do it, but she's a real hard ass. He visits Richie in jail, but of course they can't tell the police what's really going on. Back at the barge, Mac sees Hyde in the fog by the river and follows him. They face off, and Hyde talks about how he loves the feel of killing a seasoned Immortal. Mac tells he'll fight him after he's helped him get his friend out of jail, but Hyde doesn't want to wait. They fight, but Mac (cleverly) escapes. Mac goes back to visit Richie, telling him he had met with Hyde. "So he's dead, right?" Richie asks. "Wrong," Mac replies. "I ran." [SIDEBAR: Duncan is clearly really bothered by the fact that he ran, no matter the cause. Sensitive!Richie then makes fun of him, which doesn't help much.] But Mac tells him that Hyde is his only alibi. If Mac kills Hyde (which he isn't sure he can), then he won't be able to prove Richie is innocent. Mac goes looking for Hyde after telling the Inspector he'll be calling her, and bribes the front desk man at an exclusive Gun and Hunt Club to give Hyde a message which establishes a meeting time on a rooftop. Duncan calls the Inspector, then meets Hyde. Hyde draws his sword, but Duncan isn't carrying one. The Inspector arrives, Hyde deliberately swings at MacLeod so they will shoot him, and Hyde falls off the roof. They find traces of the victims' blood on Hyde's sword, and Richie is cleared and released. Then (sooprise, sooprise) Hyde rises from the dead, takes back his sword, knocks out the coroner and disappears. Richie and Mac are back at the barge, with Richie insisting that the fight with Hyde is his, but Mac says that his debt with Hyde goes much further back. FLASHBACK: In a church, dressed in 18th Century dress, Mac is grieving after a funeral, being comforted by an elegantly dressed man who looks to be in his late forties (Segur). Mac says he thought he was ready, but, "I was there when he was born, I held him in my arms. I watched him become a man, and then a father. And then today I buried a man who was old and gray!" He is distraught at the thought of constantly leaving behind friends and lovers. Segur says, "We are Immortal. Their loss is the price we pay." "But is it worth it?" Duncan asks. They walk outside, and Segur talks about the wisdom and knowledge gained, the experiences, and offers to share a bottle of "the finest cognac in all of France." Just then Hyde comes along, still making fun of Duncan's lack of "seasoning" as an Immortal. Segur smiles and says it must be him Hyde is after, but Duncan objects, wanting to fight Hyde himself. Segur tells Duncan he has much to learn. He gives him the cognac, and says he will meet him one hour on the "steps by the bridge," and drink the bottle together. But of course Segur never shows. Back at the barge, Mac gives Richie the same bottle, telling Richie to meet him by the bridge in one hour and they'll drink it together. Richie asks what to do if Mac doesn't come back, but Mac tells him if he wants to go after Hyde, its his decision, just to make sure he's ready. Duncan goes to Hyde's spacious rooms, filled with mounted animals and such. The fight is brutal, and most of the time Hyde is arrogantly certain he will win, getting in some solid strikes. At some point they move out of doors, and Hyde knocks Duncan down some long stairs, saying, "So much for your reputation, MacLeod." He kicks him further down the stairs, saying, "You're still nothing!" Duncan struggles to retrieve his blade and they move further down, but Duncan finally stabs him deep in the belly. "See you in hell," Duncan gasps, and beheads him. The Q mist rolls up and over him first before we see much in the way of lightening, then we get lots and lots of lightening and fireworks all around. It is dawn, and Richie and Mac are sitting on the steps by the bridge. Richie drinks, gasping that the cognac is really strong. Mac comments that the bottle was a lot younger when Segur gave it to him. "After all that time, it seems a shame to drink it now," Richie says. "Well, I wanted to drink it with a friend," Duncan says. "Didn't want to wait another 250 years. They talk for a minute, Richie takes a drink and winces, turns and looks at Mac who is watching him with amusement, then they both break into laughter. OBSERVATIONS: This episode was about two things, really - the re-establishment of a new and slightly different relationship between Duncan and Richie, and a view into Duncan's past, how he is in some ways different and in some ways the same as he was so long ago. Richie goes to Mac, even though he isn't sure of his welcome, because he is the strongest person Richie knows, someone who has the experience and wisdom to deal with the chaos that Richie's life has become. In his heart, he knows that he can always rely on Mac, even though they did not part on comfortable terms after Richie killed Mako over Mac's strenuous objections. And of course Richie is right. Duncan would never turn away a friend in need, especially a student who had come to him for help. The feeling between them is that each wanted that sense of friendship back, but wasn't sure if the other was willing or ready. At the very first opportunity, within minutes of Richie showing up at his door, Mac was offering him a place to stay, and they had hugged, both of them looking very relieved. But it wasn't exactly the same relationship. Duncan didn't try to dictate to Richie what to do, didn't lecture him, just advised him. And Richie didn't want to rely on Mac, and his first reaction when the police showed up was not to turn to MacLeod and ask him what to do. Instead he made up his own mind, and ran. In this case, it didn't work and Mac would probably have advised against it, but rather than try to stop him, MacLeod just watched. As for Mac and his own past, this episode shows a brash, young Duncan, full of himself and his "manhood", all of which gets humiliatingly stripped away by a vastly superior fighter who mocks him and taunts him with his own failings. Interestingly, Duncan still clings to his bravado, refusing to lead Hyde to Connor, offering up his own head, instead. Methos would have told him he was a fool, that Connor could take care of himself and it wasn't up to Duncan to "protect" him, nor would Connor thank him for giving up his life for such a cause, but I don't think that is a lesson that would ever be heard, even today. Duncan considers it his role in life to stand between the people he cares about and anything that threatens them, even when they don't need or want him to. We see him under a similar circumstance later, with Harrish Clay and Graham Ashe, but by that time Duncan was a little more cautious, a little more aware of his own limitations. Still, the notion of running from a fight remains an anathema to Duncan. We see it in his conversation with Richie, where he admits, "I ran!" in disgust at himself, even though it was the right thing to do. You can take the boy out of the Clan, but you can't take the Clan out of the boy, and his notions of honor and standing and fighting when challenged are embedded in his very soul. So he is very different - wiser, more cautious, and chooses sometimes to act against his own instincts when experience and logic dictate that choice. But he is also very much the same - still brash, still stuffed to the gills with a sense of purpose and honor, still convinced that he has the duty to stand guard. Did I like this episode? I liked many parts of it. I liked Hyde's character, and the notion that there are Immortals out there who just really like to hunt and get a thrill out of it. I liked the relationship bits with Richie and Duncan, and the flashbacks. I didn't care for the police Inspector, who seemed like she was working way too hard to be Miss Snippy and Suspicious. Her character (or lack thereof) was typical of all the plot-advancement scenes, which I didn't care for. They seemed without grace or style, merely bits of dialogue whose only impact was to make the sure the audience "got" the plot bits. The only saving grace in those was when they used Maurice, who managed to inject a bit of humor and real character even into the most mundane moments. MacGeorge P.S. Just in case you're a wee bit curious about what AP wears under that kilt, you can take a look at: http://www.wordsmiths.net/MacGeorge/pictures/under_the_kilt.jpg ------------------------------ End of HIGHLA-L Digest - 2 Mar 2004 to 3 Mar 2004 (#2004-45) ************************************************************