HIGHLA-L Digest - 31 Dec 2003 to 1 Jan 2004 (#2004-1)
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Topics of the day:
1. Did i miss something: RE: The Source screenplay (2)
2. Aaaahhh!!! It's coming back to haunt us!!!! (7)
3. Aaaahhhhh! it's coming back to haunt us!
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:49:45 -0500
From: "a.j.mosby@btinternet.com" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Did i miss something: RE: The Source screenplay
Nina>>
Excited? Must be the new euphemism for "drunk." Or, possibly, "off his
meds."
Though I don't have much faith as some in all HL projects, please remind
me... Is saying the above libel or just slander?
Huckster John--
>>>We will have a major 5 page feature on the production in
the next Impact (#171, on sale mid-Jan.>>>
>>>Yawn. And, is there an echo on this list?
Funny. Especially as this comes from a poster whose whole reputation seems
to be based on only appearing when she can take pot-shots at other people's
expense . Do remind me the last time you managed to go a whole paragraph
without a cheap shot?
John *BUY IMPACT* Mosby
Nina (surely Impact has an advertising budget)
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 11:48:57 -0500
From: Wendy Tillis <immortals_incorporated@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Aaaahhh!!! It's coming back to haunt us!!!!
Mel wrote:
>Apparently, the musical, or stage show, or whatever,
>is still haunting us....the article says they're still
>negotiating about it.
>
>*shiver*
I'll see that *shiver* and raise you a *shudder* <g>
It's not that I think a musical Highlander would *have* to be awful. It's only that the possibility of being awful is so high. And not only based on past efforts by the parties involved. Taking *any* non-musical dramatic TV show and turning it into an "opera" is likely to produce something that is cringe-worthy. Then again, I admit to a bias against musicals- except in those cases where there is a logical reason for people to break into song. So..a Highlander musical where the lead character was an Immortal rock star would appeal to me (slightly) more than one where the lead is an Immortal grocery clerk. (there's something supremely silly in having the entire cheese department staff suddenly start singing about the pain of living forever)(Of course, the smell of past-its-prime Limburger can last forever)
As for the possible new TV project, I hope they start with all new characters in new situations. Comparison between the old and new will be inevitable, but I think it would be easier to accept the new if the parallels weren't too direct. I'd prefer not to see another tall, dark, handsome Scot living with his mortal lover. OTOH, can they keep calling it Highlander if there are no Highlanders present? And..please...no female Immortal leads <eg> Raven soured me on that for a while. Unless Claudia Christian is available to play Katherine. And...no teenage Immortals...no HL:TS meets O.C. And...no cute kids. And...no motorcycles. And no crime-solving...no Immortal cops or private investigators.
I have no trouble listing what I *don't* want to see...more trouble articulating what I *do* want. I suppose it's one of those "I'll know it when I see it" things. I just want it to be *good*. After being disappointed by Raven and Endgame..I want to see something in the Highlander universe that doesn't make me reach for the remote control 5 minutes after it starts.
Wendy( Hopeful but not holding my breath.)
Immortals Inc.
immortals_incorporated@cox.net
"Weasels for Eternity"
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 11:17:16 -0600
From: Ginny <RED57@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Aaaahhh!!! It's coming back to haunt us!!!!
Wendy Tillis wrote on 1/1/2004, 10:48 AM:
> And..please...no female Immortal leads <eg> Raven soured me on that
> for a while. Unless Claudia Christian is available to play Katherine.
<rumble of approval from the audience>
That wouldn't suck. ;)
Alternatively, maybe Sarah Michelle Gellar (sp?) is available - then the
musical option is less horrible to contemplate (hey, I still hum those
tunes from "Once More with Feeling"). But then we'd need Joss for the
songs. Oh, the crossovers are making my brain hurt. Sorry.
Speaking of which, Gina Torres could kick some serious Immie butt, too.
I'm just saying.
> And...no teenage Immortals...no HL:TS meets O.C. And...no cute kids.
> And...no motorcycles. And no crime-solving...no Immortal cops or
> private investigators.
No immortal dogs, no matter how well trained and appealing.
No amnesia.
No dead hookers, singing or otherwise <g>.
No K-name Immies.
No dead female love interests.
No live female love interests that don't get to kick ass often enough,
(blow torch facials optional).
No wacky high-tech handheld bad Immie detectors.
No wacky high-tech "explanations" for the magic, ever.
No dead animals transformed into wacky low-tech wigs and facial hair.
There, that's my "anti-wish" list.
--
Ginny
RED57@aol.com
Fresh out of .sig lines
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 11:29:09 -0600
From: La Femme Vickita <lf@vickita.org>
Subject: Re: Aaaahhh!!! It's coming back to haunt us!!!!
At 11:48 AM -0500 1/1/04, Wendy said:
>As for the possible new TV project, I hope they start with all new
>characters in new situations. Comparison between the old and new
>will be inevitable, but I think it would be easier to accept the new
>if the parallels weren't too direct. I'd prefer not to see another
>tall, dark, handsome Scot living with his mortal lover. OTOH, can
>they keep calling it Highlander if there are no Highlanders present?
>And..please...no female Immortal leads <eg> Raven soured me on that
>for a while. Unless Claudia Christian is available to play
>Katherine. And...no teenage Immortals...no HL:TS meets O.C.
>And...no cute kids. And...no motorcycles. And no crime-solving...no
>Immortal cops or private investigators.
*ggg* Yeah. I hear you. But you know, in the right hands, they
could probably do *any* of those things and make it good. I always
get a kick out of it when a really good writer takes a cliche and
turns it on its head and leaves me saying, "Wow, I never thought of
it like *that*."
The catch, there, being that "really good writer" part. And maybe
even that isn't, by itself, enough.
*sigh* HL:TS was the proverbial whole that was more than the sum of
its parts. I don't think that anyone involved with it has done,
separately, anything else that even approaches it. If people had a
formula for how to make that magic happen every time, well, I guess
we'd have more of it, huh? :-)
Vicki F.
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 19:39:01 +0200
From: T'Mar <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
Subject: Re: Aaaahhh!!! It's coming back to haunt us!!!!
>Alternatively, maybe Sarah Michelle Gellar (sp?) is available
Buffy the Female Immortal? <g>
>then the
>musical option is less horrible to contemplate (hey, I still hum those
>tunes from "Once More with Feeling"). But then we'd need Joss for the
>songs.
Me too. I think we are sad. But at least she can sing!
Anti-wishes:
- No backtracking the "holy ground" issue
- No more kung fu (I like kung fu, but it can take over a film unnecessarily)
- No bad special effects
- No putting in all sorts of familiar-but-extraneous characters in order
to try and appease the fans
Wish:
- Just Richie. Is that really too much to ask for? (Shut up, Wendy. <g>)
- Marina.
\\ "I don't care about their different thoughts; ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// different thoughts are good for me." || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ - Tanita Tikaram ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
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Discussing Voyager:
Me: What happened to Seven?
My brother: She stumbled into a plot device.
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 15:57:17 -0500
From: Julie Beamer <jbeamer@infionline.net>
Subject: Re: Aaaahhh!!! It's coming back to haunt us!!!!
Ginny wrote:
>
> No dead hookers, singing or otherwise <g>.
What's wrong with dead hookers?
<BEG>
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Julie
Founding Geezer, etc.
--
jbeamer@infionline.net
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 19:08:23 -0600
From: Ginny <RED57@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Aaaahhh!!! It's coming back to haunt us!!!!
Julie Beamer wrote on 1/1/2004, 2:57 PM:
> > No dead hookers, singing or otherwise <g>.
>
> What's wrong with dead hookers?
>
> <BEG>
>
> (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Neither could I. Where else would anyone get these jokes?
Hee hee - nothing, if they turn out to be *immortal* dead hookers, then
they'd only be temporarily dead. That'd be all right.
(interlude from "The Death of Mary Queen of Scots)
"Is she dead then?..."
"No, I'm not!!"
SFX: WHAM! bam bam bam (screaming)
Anyway - something a bit more to do with the topic of future Highlander
Projects That Just Won't Die:
I found another fan discussion of Highlander: The Source at the The
Bob's website (www.robertchapin.com) with just a bit of figoogling
around. Apparently we're not the only fans with doubts. The very first
post after the initial announcement was "This sounds like a bad idea."
--
Ginny
RED57@aol.com
Fresh out of .sig lines
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 15:25:10 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Aaaahhh!!! It's coming back to haunt us!!!!
Marina--
> Wish:
> - Just Richie. Is that really too much to ask for? (Shut up, Wendy. <g>)
Which _part_ of Richie should be in the new project--the head, or the rest?
I wasn't a huge fan of it at the time, but after all the horrid Highlander
since then, DM beheading Richie & the AAA arc was all pretty good stuff.
(The midget & beige Duncan still suck, though.)
Nina (if you meant "Shut up, everyone." you should have said so)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 15:30:04 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Did i miss something: RE: The Source screenplay
> Nina>>
> Excited? Must be the new euphemism for "drunk." Or, possibly, "off his
> meds."
dear John--
> Though I don't have much faith as some in all HL projects, please remind
> me... Is saying the above libel or just slander?
Relax--truth is a defence. And one I'm confident any HL opera come to
unfortunate fruition would amply demonstrate.
Actually, I'm fairly confident that no HL opera will ever see the lights of
the most off-Broadway venue. Of course, I'm an optimist. But, really--HOW
stupid can people (as in the people who would have to _fund_ this silliness)
be? Wait--there IS "professional" wrestling....
> >>>Yawn. And, is there an echo on this list?
> Funny.
Thank you.
> Especially as this comes from a poster whose whole reputation
So, now you monitor people's reputations? Do you do this just here on list,
or in general? Shouldn't you be writing something for Impact? Or maybe
hammering out an advertising budget for 2004--there ARE ways to sell mags
other than via repeated teasing "announcements" on email discussion lists.
> Do remind me the last time you managed to go a whole paragraph
> without a cheap shot?
When did you last post something that amounted to more than blatant
advertising?
Nina (not so cheap (or French)--I'll gladly buy ALL copies of that Impact
issue if that'll somehow stop DPP from doing dumb & annoying things w/ the
franchise)
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 17:32:55 -0800
From: FKMel <sgt_buck_frobisher@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Aaaahhhhh! it's coming back to haunt us!
I really don't see a problem with female leads, but
only if they can keep it from going the way of The
Raven, which I didn't much like either.(That means no
Amanda....She was just the wrong character to use). As
far as the characters, I have to beg to differ, simply
because I don't know if one with all new characters
would be able to keep my attention very long....I'd
like to see some of the established characters there
at least in recurring roles if not regular roles.
Mel
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