There are 6 messages totalling 223 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. A couple of Questions (2) 2. Jim Byrnes on New Twilight Zone 3. Raven (was--Elizabeth Gracen) 4. Elizabeth Gracen & Raven... (2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:42:34 -0800 From: Stephen Bryce <sibryce@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: A couple of Questions --- Melinda Morgan <sgt_buck_frobisher@YAHOO.COM> wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find the lyrics to > Highlander 2 Renegade Version's 'One Dream' song, > the end title song? It would help to know who performed the song to begin with. It's probably on the movie's end credits, if you have it (silly qualifier, I know, but I must include everything). > What are the titles of the series soundtracks? > CDnow.com has some Highlander CD's but I want to be > sure I get the right ones. They're called "The Original Series Scores", and come in two volumes. > Can someone help the newbie out with a series > question: What's the Magic Circle? What the...? Okay, I'm stumped on this one. Can someone elaborate and let us know what the heck this is? Stephen Bryce ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:15:46 -0800 From: "R. Shelton" <rshelton2@earthlink.net> Subject: Jim Byrnes on New Twilight Zone How cool to see him on the first part of the new TZone tonight. I think it's called "Harsh Mistress"; he plays a guy scouting for new rock guitar talent. I can't think of anyone better to play the role, that's for sure. Rachel -- Rachel Shelton * rshelton2@earthlink.net @}->->->- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 00:27:30 -1000 From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Raven (was--Elizabeth Gracen) Wendy-- >>> I think they paired up Nick and Amanda way too soon. I'd have liked to see 10-12 episodes where they were mostly adversarial with only a slow dawning that they were (or could be) on the same side of some things - and even then it should have taken a long time before they were comfortable together. I'd have liked to see them face a powerful physical attraction while still "enemies".>>> I'd have liked to see a scene between those 2 where something seemed to be going on _other than_ the actors struggling not to wrinkle their noses in disgust. I won't use the C word, because it's not that something seemed lacking. EG & PJ seemed to actively dislike each other. It was just one of many problems w/ Raven. Jen-- >>>(the rest of it was...well...not quite as impressive)(but better than Queen of Swords)>>> Hardly a ringing endorsement. QoS had some _egregiously_ bad aspects. And then there was Tracker.... So many disappointments. Jette-- >>>Seems like *they'd* decided against a second season before the first season even aired.>>> It certainly _sounds_ like DPP's typical "they done us wrong" whine, but I really don't remember that re: Raven. "They" who? >>>it was every bit as good as the first season of Highlander - better even in some respects.>>> I disagree, for several reasons, but mostly casting & the whole HL Light idiocy. AP & AV were an intriguing pair from the start, & the early eps showed enough of DM's past & present to catch the inagination. HL:TS caught fire pretty quickly. Raven, on the other hand, didn't seem to try to intrigue viewers w/ anything re: Amanda's history or Immortality in general. Raven had no ep comparable to Band of Brothers, as far as a turning point or indication of how good it could be. And, remember that Raven had a HUGE advantage over HL:TS, in that so much was already in place. Amanda & EG, a rabid TV fan base, all the HL canon, DPP's (ridiculous) international business structure, 6 years of series experience in Canada & France, some of the writers & crew, oodles of guest actors, the HL:TS clip vault, etc. HL:TS had only HL1 to draw on, & to some extent that was a problem rather than a help since the series had to sell AP as Duncan, in place of CL as Connor, AND convert everythng from epic movie scale to TV drama scale. And yet Raven promptly crashed & burned. What a waste. Nina mac.westie@verizon.net Save Farscape/Frell SciFi Channel http://homepage.mac.com/chryse/Guiding%20Star/Cancelled.html http://www.farscapeworld.com/helpfarscape.shtml ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:52:50 -1000 From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net> Subject: Re: A couple of Questions > > Can someone help the newbie out with a series > > question: What's the Magic Circle? > > What the...? Okay, I'm stumped on this one. Can > someone elaborate and let us know what the heck this > is? I wonder if you mean Mysterious Circle. That's a style of Spanish sword fighting; opponents stay w/in a tight circle& follow certain other rules of combat. The ep Duende featured it, along w/ Flamenco dancing. Sword-master Anthony DeLongis has spoken & written at length about the Mysterious Circle in mag articles & at cons, etc. The Under the Kilt commentary for Best of HL's Duende has ADL & McAsh discussing it & doing demos. Nina mac.westie@verizon.net Save Farscape/Frell SciFi Channel http://homepage.mac.com/chryse/Guiding%20Star/Cancelled.html http://www.farscapeworld.com/helpfarscape.shtml ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:24:24 -0800 From: Pat Sonti <barrabas84022@yahoo.com> Subject: Elizabeth Gracen & Raven... Why I didn't like Raven: It was mostly a cop show and NOT a show about Immortals. They completely ignored Duncan MacLeod. That Wolf (male lead) guy didn't quite fit the bill, imo. Pat ******************** Life is love. To love is a gift. Give fully to receive love. Pat V. Sonti ***************** --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:46:37 -0800 From: Deric Jon <highlander_rifts@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Elizabeth Gracen & Raven... i never watched an episode, because it looked so uninteresting. deric > Why I didn't like Raven: > > It was mostly a cop show and NOT a show about Immortals. They completely ignored Duncan MacLeod. That Wolf (male lead) guy didn't quite fit the bill, imo. > > Pat > > > > > ******************** > Life is love. To love is a gift. Give fully to receive love. > > Pat V. Sonti > ***************** > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > ------------------------------ End of HIGHLA-L Digest - 30 Oct 2002 to 31 Oct 2002 (#2002-188) ***************************************************************