HIGHLA-L Digest - 9 Sep 2002 to 10 Sep 2002 - Special issue
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Topics in this special issue:
1. (OT) Another one bites the dust..... (11)
2. Doc Anne (8)
3. Season 1 DVD's - Anchor Bay retail
4. Doc Anne (wasQs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was"
Highlander5?"))
5. Qs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?")) (2)
6. Qs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was (2)
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8. Qs (was-- =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A0Re?= : D & P's power (wasG93ZXIgKHdhcw==
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 07:04:55 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
Leah wrote:
>Changing a TV show to shed one audience and attract another is
>something every production company/network has tried in the recent
>past, with very few success stories to tell.
Actually, have there been ANY success stories? I mean, have there
been any shows that were significantly retooled by TPTB and whose
ratings actually went UP? I can't think of any at the moment.
- Marina.
\\ "You've heard it said that living well is ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// the best revenge? Au contraire - living || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ forever is the best revenge." - Lacroix ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//=====Marina Bailey====tmar@sifl.iid.co.za====|| \\
\\=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie============//
"There is a Daniel Jackson-shaped hole in that show." - My brother,
about the sixth season of Stargate SG-1.
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 02:21:58 -0400
From: SenseiRob@aol.com
Subject: Re: Doc Anne
> >Wendy(Next topic...did Alexa have any redeeming qualities?)
> Who is Alexa? Wasn't she one of the spin-off chicks?
>
> -- Sandy
You're slipping, Sandy - but then again, you always paid more attention to Dunkie than the RROG.
Alexa was the love of Methos' life <g>, besides Duncan, that is <vbeg>. She was the poor blonde terminal dying and now dead waitress girl that he shorted out his Walkman in the rain for.
-SenseiRob@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:02:53 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Season 1 DVD's - Anchor Bay retail
Lynn--
> According to DVDFile, Anchor Bay has announced an 11/5 street date for the
> season 1 DVD's. Retail is $89.95, and with pre-order and online
discounts,
> you can probably find them for substantially less.
> Hopefully, the rest of the series will eventually be available the same
way,
> and those who don't want to will no longer have to deal with the HL Store.
That's what ebay is for. AND, you get the thrill of the hunt.
Nina
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:06:23 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
John--
> Certainly I've seen my fair share of good and poor SG1 episodes and they
are
> spread fairly evenly over the whole run to date.
Well, I've TRIED really hard to get into SG-1 during the past year, sampling
the old eps now running on Fox, as well as the new ones on Sci Fi
(hock-tui!/excuse my phlem & picture me making a nasty hand gesture whenever
THAT title arises from now on). As a newbie, I can objectively say I find
them equally boring, w/ & w/o the sainted Michael Shanks (cue the harps).
What must one do to stay awake during a SG-1 ep?
> I wouldn't dispute the assumption that Sci-Fi sacrificed Farscape to
secure
> a seventh season for SG1 (I'd expect that announcement imminently!)
But, I can hear RDA creak in the the new eps. Hasn't he SAID that this is
the last year? I really don't get beating a dead horse of a series clearly
spiraling downward creatively, rather than helping Farscape soar through
whatever wonders may be beyond Tormented Space/Walmart.
Nina
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:08:48 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne (wasQs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was"
Highlander5?"))
Zk--
> There's another TV MD who did this (guess who!); in fact, she
> participated in a massive coverup concerning the medical condition
> of a very important person. She gave up her license for the
> duration of her husband's term of office. I bet *she* didn't get
> creamed by the fan base! <g>
But, the Prez was diagnosed by an expert, & then she became an expert as
well to care for him. Doc Anne had no expertise in psych stuff that I know
of & she knew DM had seen no other docs, so she was going blind in handing
out narcotics like candy. And, the fallout of WW was that everyone realized
what was done was wrong & had to be paid for; she paid by temporarily giving
up her license before it could be revoked.
> But she didn't wear suede miniskirts.
Of course not--Abby has class. She's smart & sassy & independent & far from
a charmer, but no one thinks she's a grump.
Wendy--
>(Next topic...did Alexa have any redeeming qualities?)
Yes--she had the grace to die fast & off-screen. Before that whining &
sniffling got too annoying.
Nina
mac.westie@verizon.net
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:56:52 -0400
From: jjswbt@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Qs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?"))
Me:
>> Didn't do as well this time- I refuse to drag out the tapes or CD and
>check.
Nina:
>Which for some reason reminds me of Raven & SOMEONE who WAS posting the
>euro bits???
Ouch. That hurts <eg>
>> >1--We were shown (on-screen) 3 Immies receiving their very 1st
>Quickenings.
>> >Who & what eps?
>> Richie - with Mako
>> Duncan - with Mr. Scottish Hermit
>> Who else? Um....not Amanda...not Methos...someone else. One of those
>horrid Spin Girls?
>Nah--Lord Byron taking Hans Kershner's Q in The Modern Prometheus
Damn. I should have trusted my first instincts. I thought about Byron and then didn't want to check the tape to see. I think I had convinced myself that Byron had been Immortal for longer than that.
>> >2--Twice we saw a Quickening go to a temporarily dead but still headed &
>> >thus victorious Immie. Who & what eps?
>> Duncan with Morgan in "Double Jeopardy"
>> Um.....not a clue.
>
>Also, Hans Kershner's into dead Byron. Did someone perhaps blot out all
>recollection of The Modern Prometheus? It wasn't THAT bad. It added quite
>a bit to the Immies-responsible-for-mortal-deaths debate. You know--the ep
>w/ _the goat_.
Oh, I remember the goat<G>. And the scene with the sleeping girl <whatthehellishername>Mary? Wasn't it Mary? that everyone cites as proof that Methos liked to sleep with boys. (Now ... figure *that* out!) And it was a bad episode...typical "Adrian Paul" darkness that hides most of the action ..the silliness that Lord Byron could have been an Immortal...the drivel about the mortal musician being lead astray as if he didn't have any free will...bah!
>> >5--2 Q's happened in caves (well, one was in an underground
>rock-enclosed
>> >space that _looked_ like a cave). Immies & eps?
>> Duncan with Mr. Scottish Hermit
>> Duncan with Cahill?
>
>No, Cahill lost his head in a non-holy-ground-museum, that was many things
>but that I never thought to be in a cave. The other cavish place was the
>holy spring DM rapelled down inside of in Deliverance, to vanquish his evil
>self. Actually, I think the location was an abandoned train tunnel, which
>as you say wasn't unusual on HL, but it was presented more as a cave, I
>think. Sandy got it.
I know Cahill wasn't a cave but it was dark and stony and underground <eg> And it *was* holy ground. It was ..it was. If Kirin's ashram can be HG, so can Cahill's private altar.
Harumph. I thought about the underground spring and the two Duncans but that isn't a "real" Quickening because Evil Duncan and Good Duncan weren't "real" . Battles in one's mind don't count. So there. Besides..there were windows in that underground "cave"..proof that it was neither underground nor a cave.
>> Wendy(By Season 3 I tended to avert my eyes during Quickenings because
>they looked so stupid.)
>Which is also a big problem w/ porn.
Hmmm...my experience with porn is somewhat limited, but I think I agree.
Wendy(Finally watched "The Void".)(Wasn't as awful as most AP movies)(Not that that is saying much.)(Was basically a 90 minute SG1 episode without RDA)(Laughed at the katanas in the background of Malcom's office.)
Fairy Killer
jjswbt@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~jjswbt/index.html
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:59:54 -0400
From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne
At 02:21 AM 09/10/2002 -0400, SenseiRob@aol.com wrote:
>You're slipping, Sandy - but then again, you always paid more attention to
>Dunkie than the RROG.
Oh! *That* Alexa!
Sorry... it's been awhile and some of the HL info has dripped out.
-- Sandy
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:40:44 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
Subject: Re: Qs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?"))
>Oh, I remember the goat<G>. And the scene with the sleeping
>girl <whatthehellishername>Mary? Wasn't it Mary? that everyone
>cites as proof that Methos liked to sleep with boys. (Now ...
>figure *that* out!)
As the resident slash, er, *fan*, I can explain it to you. It's
not the fact that Mary was there that is significant. It's the
fact that Byron was trying to get Methos into a threesome, and
his attitude made some of us think that Byron wouldn't have
cared if it had been only him and Methos. Did you see their faces
when Byron put his hand on Methos' neck? I thought I was going to
need a paper bag.
But to be fair, in that scene Methos just looks shocked by the
whole thing. As if he was, er, *interested*, but wouldn't go
ahead because Mary was effectively unconscious.
(That scene is still not worth watching the entire episode for.
And their continual use of the name "Byron" instead of his
first name really annoys me.)
- Marina.
\\ "You've heard it said that living well is ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// the best revenge? Au contraire - living || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ forever is the best revenge." - Lacroix ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//=====Marina Bailey====tmar@sifl.iid.co.za====|| \\
\\=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie============//
"There is a Daniel Jackson-shaped hole in that show." - My brother,
about the sixth season of Stargate SG-1.
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:46:21 -0400
From: KLZ3 <KZIMMERMAN3@cox.net>
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
> for the deep Jack moments.
That's a contradiction in terms. :::: hopefully dusting honorary
Jack O'Neill rocker ::::
>
> I think we're lucky that with HL the changes were not so dramatic
> as to engender huge splits and fights. Sure, we fight on-list, but
> we're united in our love for the show.
>
I'm not touching this one with a ten-foot flagpole. <eg>
ZK
kzimmerman3@cox.net
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:53:41 -0400
From: KLZ3 <KZIMMERMAN3@cox.net>
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
:::: valiantly tying discussion to HL ::::
> He actually left
> because he felt his character was being under-used, not especially because
> of the way his character was developing.
I think Daniel ran into a problem similar to Ri - Ry - er - the
red-haired kid on HL. There wasn't much further they could take
him. His conflicts had been resolved - his wife, his initial
anger at Teal'c for taking his wife, the wide disparity between
his character/brains and Jack's. Same with Ri - Richie (made you
look!). Once he became immortal, resolved his immense conflict
with Duncan after SW, died in front of a crowd of thousands in
France, etc., and grew out of his sidekick role, there wasn't
much they could do with him and keep him a minor character.
ZK
kzimmerman3@cox.net
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:01:05 -0400
From: L Cameron-Norfleet <cgliser@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
someone said?
> > I think we're lucky that with HL the changes were not so dramatic
> > as to engender huge splits and fights. Sure, we fight on-list, but
> > we're united in our love for the show.
And Zeek:
>I'm not touching this one with a ten-foot flagpole. <eg>
And then I thought "what the hell?" and threw another PoRA on the fire.
We're united in our love for the show? {{Looking around for those
people in red}} Really?
Liser
(or are we busily re-writing history again?)
--
Lisa Cameron-Norfleet ** cgliser@earthlink.net
--
Well that's like hypnotizing chickens. -Iggy Pop: Lust For Life
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:34:25 -0400
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
>>I think Daniel ran into a problem similar to Ri - Ry - er - the red-haired kid on HL. There wasn't much further they could take him. His conflicts had been resolved - his wife, his initial anger at Teal'c for taking his wife, the wide disparity between his character/brains and Jack's. Same with Ri - Richie (made you look!).<<
Except Daniel Jackson was never one of the 'sidekicks' on SG-1. He was one of the leads, and if you go by the movie, *the* main protagonist of that universe. That the series writers chose to promote Colonel O'Neill as the main protagonist had to do with attracting the male viewers and that Richard Dean Anderson was one of the Producers, of course.
Joss Whedon, one of the best writers on TV today, has always understood that the character dynamics are far more interesting and have much more potential than how many vamps get their butts kicked, from week to week. He does not discard a character because he feels "the arc’s been used up." He takes it as a challenge to find a new and totally unexpected direction to take the character, in relation to everyone else in the ensemble. Whedon is one of the only writers on TV today who knows how to REALIZE the potential he creates, and he has colleagues on the team who ’get’ that.
There’s more to a male character’s life than beating the villain and winning the girl. There’s more to a personality than having a super-power, whether it’s slaying vampires or being a demon.
I think it's a sad demostration of the lack of imagination and talent on SG-1's writing crew that they've invested the new character with all sorts of miraculous abilities: Breathing underwater, psychic powers, an apparent resistance to radiation, an ability to read really, really fast. That's great for a comic-book superhero or a Mary Sue. It isn't character development.
Leah
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:05:58 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne
(claims Elaine)
>>most Scottish people have a very dry sense
> >of humour that often comes over that way, they are also inclined to
> >sometimes be sharp or grumpy sounding when they don't really mean to be.
> >Both Jette and I have been caught with that one.
>
> Now this is interesting<g> Are you suggesting that this dry sense of humor
is genetic? That Anne Lindsey...raised in America (and for all we know her
parents and grandparents for 200 years were Americans) somehow inherited
this dour personality as a part of being "Scottish"? The Scots in my family
tree are fairly recent and there's not a dour relative to be found. I'd
argue that a dour Scottish personality is a factor of being raised in the
company of dour Scots.<
I think you may just have proved Elaine's point for
her <g>
(OTOH - I don't agree with Elaine - the *sense of
humour* thing is cultural, not genetic - and Anne
Lindsay showed no other signs of having been
raised in a "scots culture")
Jette
(aka Vinyaduriel)
"Work for Peace and remain fiercely loving" - Jim Byrnes
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://bosslady.tripod.com/fanfic.html
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:16:48 -0700
From: Kaki4 <kaki4@nc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Qs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was
>On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:40:44 0200 Marina Bailey
<tmar@SIFL.IID.CO.ZA> wrote.
>>Oh, I remember the goat<G>. And the scene with the sleeping
>>girl <whatthehellishername>Mary? Wasn't it Mary? that everyone
>>cites as proof that Methos liked to sleep with boys. (Now ...
>>figure *that* out!)
>
>As the resident slash, er, *fan*, I can explain it to you. It's
>not the fact that Mary was there that is significant. It's the
>fact that Byron was trying to get Methos into a threesome, and
>his attitude made some of us think that Byron wouldn't have
>cared if it had been only him and Methos. Did you see their faces
>when Byron put his hand on Methos' neck? I thought I was going to
>need a paper bag.
I think there are a few more of us here than one. :) I thought it was a
very erotic, if weird, scene. but definitely Byron/Methos as the focus and
obvious debauchery as the intent.
Kaki
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:26:40 -0400
From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne
At 05:05 PM 09/10/2002 +0100, Jette Goldie wrote:
>I think you may just have proved Elaine's point for her <g>
I don't think she did.
>(OTOH - I don't agree with Elaine - the *sense of humour* thing is
>cultural, not genetic - and Anne Lindsay showed no other signs of having
>been raised in a "scots culture")
I think *this* is the point Wendy was making.
-- Sandy
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:38:42 -0400
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?UmU6IFFzICh3YXMtLSCgUmU6IEQgJiBQJ3MgcG93ZXIgKHdhcw==?=
Kaki:
>>I think there are a few more of us here than one. :) I
thought it was a very erotic, if weird, scene. but definitely Byron/Methos as the focus and obvious debauchery as the intent.<<
...and then there was the goat.
Yes, they were deliberately pulling our chains, with the obvious intent of showing that Byron thought boundaries were meant to be pushed. Interestingly, I suspect that the Methos of 3,000 years earlier, could have taught Byron a thing or two about the subject.
Leah
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:41:46 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
Subject: Re: Qs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was
Kaki wrote:
>>As the resident slash, er, *fan*,
>I think there are a few more of us here than one. :) I thought it was a
>very erotic, if weird, scene. but definitely Byron/Methos as the focus and
>obvious debauchery as the intent.
Ah, someone else with taste in scenes. :) I'm so glad there are more
than one. It's hard to bear the burden of slashiness alone.
- Marina.
\\ "You've heard it said that living well is ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// the best revenge? Au contraire - living || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ forever is the best revenge." - Lacroix ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//=====Marina Bailey====tmar@sifl.iid.co.za====|| \\
\\=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie============//
"There is a Daniel Jackson-shaped hole in that show." - My brother,
about the sixth season of Stargate SG-1.
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:41:47 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
Lisa wrote:
>We're united in our love for the show? {{Looking around for those
>people in red}} Really?
Yes, really. Why else are we all still here? I mean, I'm not off
on the Richie list or the Clan Daniel... er, Denial list (if there
is one). We all have different opinions on the show & its dynamics
& characters, but I think we still all define ourselves as HL
fans. Richie is my favourite character (duh), but I've been a fan of
HL since 1985, and that was long before he ever came into the picture.
And if we're all still bothering to take part in these discussions, we
must be fans and have some sort of "community" (complete with the
requisite fights, insults, warm moments and hazing of PoRAs).
>(or are we busily re-writing history again?)
"We rewrite history so we can live with it." But, no, I don't
think I'm doing that, at any rate. I do have a red shirt, but
I also have two list shirts, a Richie Reserve shirt and a PWFC
shirt. And I wear them all. Proudly.
- Marina.
\\ "You've heard it said that living well is ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// the best revenge? Au contraire - living || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ forever is the best revenge." - Lacroix ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//=====Marina Bailey====tmar@sifl.iid.co.za====|| \\
\\=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie============//
"There is a Daniel Jackson-shaped hole in that show." - My brother,
about the sixth season of Stargate SG-1.
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:46:18 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
ZK wrote:
>I think Daniel ran into a problem similar to Ri - Ry - er - the
>red-haired kid on HL. There wasn't much further they could take
>him. His conflicts had been resolved - his wife, his initial
>anger at Teal'c for taking his wife, the wide disparity between
>his character/brains and Jack's.
Well, I blame that on unimaginitive writing, not the character
himself. Even boring characters can be made more interesting with
deeper storylines and good writing. And Daniel wasn't in the
least boring, they just needed to figure out which path he
needed to take next. They could have taken him further if they'd
only wanted to. They obviously didn't.
>Same with Ri - Richie (made you look!).
And I can't even whap you. That's the right spelling and
everything!!
Leah wrote:
>Except Daniel Jackson was never one of the 'sidekicks' on SG-1.
>He was one of the leads, and if you go by the movie, *the* main
>protagonist of that universe.
What she said.
- Marina.
\\ "You've heard it said that living well is ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// the best revenge? Au contraire - living || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ forever is the best revenge." - Lacroix ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//=====Marina Bailey====tmar@sifl.iid.co.za====|| \\
\\=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie============//
"There is a Daniel Jackson-shaped hole in that show." - My brother,
about the sixth season of Stargate SG-1.
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:48:18 +0200
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@sifl.iid.co.za>
Subject: Re: Qs (was-- =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A0Re?= : D & P's power
(wasG93ZXIgKHdhcw==
>...and then there was the goat...
>Interestingly, I suspect that the Methos of 3,000 years earlier,
>could have taught Byron a thing or two about the subject.
"I am Methos. You live to serve me. I have a hankering for
goat. Medium rare."
:)
- Marina.
\\ "You've heard it said that living well is ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
// the best revenge? Au contraire - living || R I C H I E >> \\
\\ forever is the best revenge." - Lacroix ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
//=====Marina Bailey====tmar@sifl.iid.co.za====|| \\
\\=============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie============//
"There is a Daniel Jackson-shaped hole in that show." - My brother,
about the sixth season of Stargate SG-1.
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:58:18 -0400
From: L Cameron-Norfleet <cgliser@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
I said:
> >We're united in our love for the show? {{Looking around for those
>>people in red}} Really?
Marina:
>Yes, really. Why else are we all still here? I mean, I'm not off
>on the Richie list or the Clan Daniel... er, Denial list (if there
>is one). We all have different opinions on the show & its dynamics
>& characters, but I think we still all define ourselves as HL
>fans.
Strictly speaking, yes. But I recall a fair amount of...ill will
toward the show, the Powers that Be, and all things Highlander when
Archangel aired. Lots of yelling. Not a whole heck of a lot of
love. :-) And certainly not a heck of a lot of unity.
Liser
--
Lisa Cameron-Norfleet ** cgliser@earthlink.net
--
Well that's like hypnotizing chickens. -Iggy Pop: Lust For Life
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:58:03 -0400
From: KLZ3 <KZIMMERMAN3@cox.net>
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
> Except Daniel Jackson was never one of the 'sidekicks' on SG-1.
You're right. My point, though, is that they took both
characters as far as they could. I don't know how many times
they could have written a Duncan/Richie falling-out, but if you
imagine how many times good friends or parents and children
fight, and add swords, you've got chances for a lot of drama.
One problem with Daniel is that it's very hard to write a
character who's a lot smarter than the writers. With Wrystchie,
they could have done a lot more with coming of age as an
immortal, and canned the motorcycles going around...and
around...and around...
ZK
kzimmerman3@cox.net
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:15:38 -0400
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
ZK:
>>You're right. My point, though, is that they took both
characters as far as they could. I don't know how many times they could have written a Duncan/Richie falling-out, but if you imagine how many times good friends or parents and children fight, and add swords, you've got chances for a lot of drama.<<
I have to disagree. Falling-outs between characters are simply one of the options available for story arcs. Fanfiction alone proves there were many other directions they could have chosen to take the character of either Richie or Daniel Jackson. The limitations are not on the fictional character, here. The limitations lie with the writers. As you say yourself:
>>One problem with Daniel is that it's very hard to write a
character who's a lot smarter than the writers.<<
With Wrystchie, they could have done a lot more with coming of age as an immortal, and canned the motorcycles going around...and around...and around...<<
And 'Wrystchie' didn't even have the option of leaving the planet for further development, as did the members of SG-1. So what do they do with that potential, this season? Well, for one thing, they spent the first six episodes on Earth, and never saw the Stargate at all. To me, that's akin to six episodes of HL without immortality being involved.
Leah
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:07:12 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne
>
> >I think you may just have proved Elaine's point for her <g>
>
> I don't think she did.
Wendy's well known for her =very= dry humour - and
now she admits to Scots blood?
Jette
(aka Vinyaduriel)
"Work for Peace and remain fiercely loving" - Jim Byrnes
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://bosslady.tripod.com/fanfic.html
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:33:08 -0400
From: L Cameron-Norfleet <cgliser@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne
> >
>> >I think you may just have proved Elaine's point for her <g>
>>
>> I don't think she did.
>
>
>Wendy's well known for her =very= dry humour - and
>now she admits to Scots blood?
ROLL CALL!!!
Liser
(aw, come on...someone had to)
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Lisa Cameron-Norfleet ** cgliser@earthlink.net
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Well that's like hypnotizing chickens. -Iggy Pop: Lust For Life
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:37:35 -0400
From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne
At 06:07 PM 09/10/2002 +0100, Jette Goldie wrote:
>Wendy's well known for her =very= dry humour - and
>now she admits to Scots blood?
LOL! I didn't catch that. :-)
-- Sandy
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:44:32 +0100
From: Jette Goldie <jette@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne
Sandy
> At 06:07 PM 09/10/2002 +0100, Jette Goldie wrote:
> >Wendy's well known for her =very= dry humour - and
> >now she admits to Scots blood?
>
> LOL! I didn't catch that. :-)
Maybe it needs the very dry humour of a Scot to
spot it <g>
Jette
jette@blueyonder.co.uk
"I don't care WHO started it - STOP IT NOW!!"
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