HIGHLA-L Digest - 8 Sep 2002 to 9 Sep 2002 - Special issue (#2002-140)
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Topics in this special issue:
1. (OT) Another one bites the dust..... (5)
2. Doc Anne (wasQs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander
5?"))
3. Guest appearances/was: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust..... (2)
4. Doc Anne (wasQs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?"))
5. Qs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?")) (2)
6. PW in Vancouver video
7. Doc Anne (wasQs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander5?"))
8. Doc Anne (wasQs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?")) (3)
9. Final Dragoncon report
10. PoRA
11. Doc Anne (wasQs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander5?"))
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 17:29:43 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
ZK--
> WHAT?!? Are they nuts?
Yes--cancelling Farscape proves that pretty well. "The Best Sci Fi Show on
TV"--& The Sci Fi Channel kills it. And, I think Simcoe mis-spoke about the
axer being EM/Henson Group; Kemper & Co. said Friday that it was Sci Fi
Channel, & THEY would know. Kemper said/typed--"Sci Fi was not going to
exercise it's option to pick up the 5th season of Farscape."
> I haven't gotten as intrigued by a show for as long as I did on
> HL since HL.
Ditto. I DO think we'll likely get a FS film, & I am SURE it'll be a hell
of a lot better than any HL film. Moya & John Crichton's butt on the big
screen....the stuff of dreams.... But, still. It's a crushing blow,
personally, to someone who loved FS & thought--was TOLD in Sci Fi press
releases!--that it was renewed through season 5. Maybe it's just not worth
caring about something as whimsically out of our control AND clearly in the
paws of morons as a TV show.
Looking at the larger picture, I CANNOT fathom that all the immensely
talented people who make Farscape are unemployed as of next week.
> (Clancy Brown is in Breaking News)(Looks good)
Yep--he cleans up nicely. Both he & Michael Ironside (Zeist-Man from HL2)
surprised me in Starship Troopers the other day. GORY flick & somewhat
laughable, but they really had some nice effects going.
Nina (finishing up my stack of FS protest letters)
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 18:07:04 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne (wasQs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander
5?"))
Elaine--
>>>Dr Anne needs someone to defend her here. :-)
Why? Because you liked her as a character? OK. I mean--I liked Amanda as
a character (well--HL:TS/Amanda--not Raven/Amanda so much). But, you could
say 10 uncomplimentary things about her, & I'd probably agree w/ most of
them & add several more barbs of my own. I'd still like her, & it wouldn't
bother me if you didn't, for your stated reasons.
> Miniskirts & tight sweaters sabotaged the character <<
>>> I agree with this, but I do also realise that was wardrobe that did
that.
OK, but it's still ANNE, for our purposes. Just like DM's boots, long
coats, tight jeans, white briefs.... OK--just like ALL the characters'
clothing defined them in part. (Even Methos' droopy sweaters & that puke
green jacket Richie wore early on....)
> Anne violated her lover's privacy by seeking out his medical
> records w/o permission.
>>> Okay it was unprofessional - but the man you have just started seeing
you
>>> are really interested in him and then you start to realise there is
>>> something odd about him, no I don't think she did anything most of us
>>> wouldn't do in the same situation.
Nope--or if we did as medical professionals we should be sanctioned. She
assumed there would be medical files of his to find & so MUST have planned
to look through them, chat w/ docs, etc. That's not allowed w/o the
patient's permission, at least in the US. She wasn't even his physician!
> She also prescribed sleeping pills to said
> lover--despite NOT being his doctor, <<
> At that point she was dealing with him as a lover and friend. How often
> have you given someone asprin or any other bit of medicine without knowing
> if they have an allergy - I know I have.
She could have given him an aspirin. But I'm betting it would be judged
malpractice to hand over a full bottle of prescription sleeping pills w/o
being his doc, w/o an examination or diagnosis, KNOWING he was already
dangerously distraught, etc. What if he had been mortal & died from eating
the whole bottle?
> Then, she "accidentally" got pregnant; admittedly, that's personal
> rather than professional, but in a DOCTOR & in these circumstances, I find
> it to be overwhelmingly dumb. <<
>>> In normal circumstance yes, but how many women have got themselves into
> >>trouble of one sort or another while suffering through grief, she was
>>> trying to recover from losing Duncan - and before you throw stones at
her
>>> for that what was the first thing Duncan did after losing Tessa - Annie
>>> Devlin. Point is Anne wasn't thinking straight and personally if she
had
>>> been the cold perfect person that people seemed to want her to be Duncan
>>> would never have looked at her twice.
Anne's having sex w/ an old friend after DM died isn't the issue. Anne
GETTING PREGNANT from a one-night-stand, w/ the implication being that
she--a DOCTOR--didn't bother w/ birth control, is what I found to be dumb.
> Worst of all, probably, she risked herself, the life
> of her soon-to-be born child, & the lives of emergency workers <<
>>> So now she behaves like the professional everyone wants her to be and
that
> >>is wrong too, can't win can she.
The point is--it WAS NOT professional behavior to defy the emergency chief &
go into the collapsed subway. As a surgeon, she should have stayed outside
& tended to victims being brought out by rescue workers. She risked her
life, that of her soon-to-be-born child, her assistant, emergency personnel
who might have to rescue HER, etc. And her assistant died down there, in
large part because of her very unprofessional decision.
> I think the primary complaint against Anne was that she wasn't Tessa or
> Amanda. Just my opinion.
Well, I tried to explain that wasn't the case for me. My problem w/ Anne
wasn't that she wasn't Tessa or Amanda--it was that she WAS Anne, who I
found to be completely unlikable for both personal (her appearance &
attitude) & professional (the fact she violated her profession's ethics)
reasons.
Nina
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 03:35:24 -0400
From: KLZ3 <KZIMMERMAN3@cox.net>
Subject: Guest appearances/was: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
Jeepers. Where the heck is Rygel going to get another acting
job?!? There just isn't much work for a 24" slug with delusions
of royalty.
Which speaking of, Little Deer's tribe's location made a guest
appearance in Dead Zone tonight, rocks and all. I swear I saw
some of the same ppl - oh - wait - that was the Seacouver RepCo.
<g>
They had a lighted Holy Hot Tub, too, but it didn't look very
hot.
ZK (I recognized the stretch of road from an ep. of MacGyver, if
not from HL)
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Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:43:14 -1000
From: MacWestie <mac.westie@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Guest appearances/was: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
> Jeepers. Where the heck is Rygel going to get another acting
> job?!? There just isn't much work for a 24" slug with delusions
> of royalty.
He could fill in for Kelly Ripa during her maternity leave; I can see Rygel
bantering w/ Regis now--& using his ThroneSled to bop Regis off his stool.
Or, maybe Rygel could sit in over at The View. Join the next group on
Survivor? The Bachelor? REALLY freak out Adrian Monk? Take over as The
Slayer next season? Are they still casting for the new Batman movie? Or,
he could go the commercial route--maybe taking over as Geico's spokesalien,
after eating the cute talking gecko.
Sigh--I just KNOW that right now Moya is very afraid.
> Which speaking of, Little Deer's tribe's location made a guest
> appearance in Dead Zone tonight, rocks and all. I swear I saw
> some of the same ppl - oh - wait - that was the Seacouver RepCo.
> They had a lighted Holy Hot Tub, too, but it didn't look very
> hot.
> ZK (I recognized the stretch of road from an ep. of MacGyver, if
> not from HL)
That was a weirder-than-usual DZ ep, but I DID enjoy all the HL scenery.
Nina
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 06:56:04 -0400
From: Judy Schneider <judyas77@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
>
>Scifi said that they didn't want anymore space shows and it seems that they
>are kicking out the current space shows, too.
>
Excuuuuse me???? What are they going to show????
Space shows are the meat and potatoes of science fiction. Unless they come
up with a good fantasy (as in magic, dragons, wizards, etc.), what do they
consider science fiction?????
Bother!
Judy, the Chocolate Slayer judyas77@hotmail.com
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 07:03:48 -0400
From: Judy Schneider <judyas77@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne (wasQs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?"))
Elaine wrote:
<snip>
>
Actually, someone else wrote this part, but I lost track of who. 8)
> >> Worst of all, probably, she risked herself, the life
>of her soon-to-be born child, & the lives of emergency workers <<
>
>So now she behaves like the professional everyone wants her to be and that
>is wrong too, can't win can she.
>
Sorry, but I _completely_ disagree here. Anne was NOT an emergency worker.
She had no business being at the scene in the first place. She _should_ have
been at the hospital, ready to do HER job, which was treating the wounded
that the professional rescue workers were able to safely remove from the
scene of the accident. That's even if she wasn't pregnant. Being pregnant
made it just so much worse.
One of the lines I hated the most about that episode, was when she decided
to go into the subway and her friend asked about her baby she said "She'll
just have to get used to it." Used to what? Mommy not thinking? Mommy
risking her life? Mommy risking _my_ life???? Sorry, but that was just plain
criminally stupid. Most parents will risk their own lives for the children,
not the opposite.
Not to mention the fact that she had been told to stay out by the incident
commander, and her actions led directly to the death of her friend.
I'm not a Doctor Anne hater, I'm kinda Anne neutral, but in this episode, I
wanted to turn her over my knee and give her a spanking!
Judy, the Chocolate Slayer judyas77@hotmail.com
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 07:37:43 EDT
From: Bizarro7@aol.com
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
In a message dated 9/8/02 3:01:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
KZIMMERMAN3@cox.net writes:
<< So..they gave up a unique concept of space travel without those
annoying space ships, a concept that could be applied to current
times rather than in the future, for a sekrit, all-powerful,
deadly, deceitful organization funded by who-knows-who, who keep
tabs on the members of the SGC. Sound familiar? Yup, makes lots
of sense to me. Sheesh.
What's next, flying immortals? >>
How about replacing one of the original characters with one who can hold his
breath underwater really, *really* long? Word is that the writing crew began
to alter the tone of the show as originally produced for the more
sophisticated, adult Showtime audience, around about season 4, in order to
cater to the younger teen demographic watching the Syndicated episodes. When
this move diminished the number of new subscribers paying for Showtime to see
SG-1, they cancelled it...and Sci-Fi picked it up on a save. Purely
speculation on my part, but I suspect that Sci-Fi has decided to sacrifice
FARSCAPE so that it can afford Season 7 of SG-1.
With the current quality of SG-1, I'll be watching FIREFLY, thanks.
Leah
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:41:09 -0400
From: jjswbt@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: Qs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?"))
Nina cheers:
>Of course. WENDY'S #1!, WENDY'S #1! WENDY'S #1! WENDY'S #1! WENDY'S #1!
Thank you. Thank you.
>OK, who wants to try something a bit more challenging?
Didn't do as well this time- I refuse to drag out the tapes or CD and check.
>1--We were shown (on-screen) 3 Immies receiving their very 1st Quickenings.
>Who & what eps?
Richie - with Mako
Duncan - with Mr. Scottish Hermit
Who else? Um....not Amanda...not Methos...someone else. One of those horrid Spin Girls?
>2--Twice we saw a Quickening go to a temporarily dead but still headed &
>thus victorious Immie. Who & what eps?
Duncan with Morgan in "Double Jeopardy"
Um.....not a clue.
>3--Once, an in-the-distance Q lightshow made Richie think DM had lost his
>head, & the same thing happened once to make DM fear RR was a goner. The 2
>eps?
They Also Serve - Duncan beheads Christian
Testimony - Richie beheads Kristov
>4--2 Q's happened on bridges (well, in one case the receiving Immie was
>heading off the bridge...). Immies & eps?
Duncan with Caspian
Duncan with Slan
>5--2 Q's happened in caves (well, one was in an underground rock-enclosed
>space that _looked_ like a cave). Immies & eps?
Duncan with Mr. Scottish Hermit
Duncan with Cahill?
Although any number of Quickenings took place sorta below ground or in tunnels....Killian in "The Colonel", Sendaro in "Saving Grace", Fitz in "Star-Crossed', Mickey in "The Innocent", etc
Wendy(By Season 3 I tended to avert my eyes during Quickenings because they looked so stupid.)
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 23:58:46 +1000
From: Sonja van den Ende <sonjav@powerup.com.au>
Subject: Re: PW in Vancouver video
Hi Mary,
Thanks for your order. :) We'll have a copy set aside for you at Reno.
cheers,
Sonja
At 09:20 AM 9/09/02, you wrote:
>hi
>
> I am going to Reno.. Can I have a video please..
>
>thanks
>
>Mary
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:07:15 -0400
From: KLZ <kzimmerman3@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne (wasQs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander5?"))
>
> One of the lines I hated the most about that episode, was when she decided
> to go into the subway and her friend asked about her baby she said "She'll
> just have to get used to it." Used to what? Mommy not thinking? Mommy
> risking her life? Mommy risking _my_ life???? Sorry, but that was just plain
> criminally stupid. Most parents will risk their own lives for the children,
> not the opposite.
I always put the whole Blitz scenario down to lack of knowledge on
the part of writers/producers about roles of various medical
personnel in emergency situations. The ER personnel do not go out
into burning buildings; the rescue workers rescue the people,
transport/paramedics stablize and transport, and the ER gets ready
to work on them.
But then, TV has never gotten medical roles right.
The wardrobe/demeanor - I always assumed that Anne's awkwardness is
dating/dressing casually/etc. was a function of her inexperience in
anything but scrubs. I think she didn't have a life up till then,
with med. school/internship/residency. She wouldn't have been out
of her residency that long, in her mid-thirties.
ZK
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:27:37 -0400
From: KLZ <kzimmerman3@cox.net>
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
> Word is that the writing crew began
> to alter the tone of the show as originally produced for the more
> sophisticated, adult Showtime audience, around about season 4, in order to
> cater to the younger teen demographic watching the Syndicated episodes.
:::: banging head on keyboard :::: When will they learn?!? It
seems like shows (like HL, SG-1) start out original and unique, and
then the relentless pull from programming execs. begins, to try to
attract that elusive younger teen demographic and to bring the show
into the realm of what the execs understand ("Stories ripped from
the headlines!")(Thanks; if I want headlines I'll watch CNN).
I also think that actors should be legally prohibited from becoming
executive producers, or influencing story lines. SG-1 changed when
RDA's name started appearing in the credits. We can see how much
good it did to have AP's heavy-handed input into HL - I still blame
a lot of Duncan's beigeness in S6 on AP being tired of waving
swords around and wanting to go in a different direction. I can't
really blame him - I'm sure it's hard to play the same rather
violent character for so long. The only direction that Duncan
could go after Rit - Rit - Wryschiee's death was to renounce what
has been the basis of his life for 400 years.
AP has said at cons (paraphrasing heavily) that as you change as an
actor, you change as a person. Remember Profiler? I've read that
Ally Walker left because the subject of the show was so dark. I
give her credit - she didn't try to turn the show into Miss
Frances's Ding Dong School (hey, I still have my bells) - she left
with Samantha Waters's head held high.
In any case, AP changed as Duncan changed, etc. And HL was forever
wounded by inserting things that were supposed to attract them thar
dad-burned whippersnappers (like spurious motorcycles going
around...and around...and around... a racetrack).
ZK
kzimmerman3@cox.net
> When
> this move diminished the number of new subscribers paying for Showtime to see
> SG-1, they cancelled it...and Sci-Fi picked it up on a save. Purely
> speculation on my part, but I suspect that Sci-Fi has decided to sacrifice
> FARSCAPE so that it can afford Season 7 of SG-1.
I cancelled Showtime because they stopped showing new eps for
months at a time. I don't believe I've watched a full ep. since
the 100th ep. show. I have copies, but still haven't watched them.
ZK (No wonder Daniel ascended)(so he wouldn't have to see SG-1
disintegrate into Batman and Robin)("Holy frozen bad guys!")
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:17:32 -0400
From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Qs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?"))
At 09:41 AM 09/09/2002 -0400, jjswbt@EARTHLINK.NET wrote:
> >5--2 Q's happened in caves (well, one was in an underground rock-enclosed
> >space that _looked_ like a cave). Immies & eps?
>
>Duncan with Mr. Scottish Hermit
>Duncan with Cahill?
How about Duncan with Evil Duncan?
-- Sandy
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:50:40 -0400
From: Elaine Nicol <ElaineN@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne (wasQs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?"))
>> I think, as Nina said, that Anne was supposed
to be a great love for Duncan (as stated by Adrian in an AOL chat before
Anne's first season), but she was written and acted contrary to that end.
<<
I don't think so I once had a discussion with another friend about Anne,
and I mentioned how she and Duncan made a typical Scottish couple, very
little touching, bit grumpy with each other, not terribly romantic with
each other. The reaction I got was WHAT! Anne isn't Scottish to which I
replied her backround is with a name like Lindsey. No I'm not saying all
Scottish women are dour etc, but most Scottish people have a very dry sense
of humour that often comes over that way, they are also inclined to
sometimes be sharp or grumpy sounding when they don't really mean to be.
Both Jette and I have been caught with that one.
>> But that's beside the point of the discussion. We're talking about Dr.
Anne <<
Actually I did think we were talking about Dr Anne in relation to Duncan
and the other characters - you can't really talk about them any other way.
>> Making her cranky all the time doesn't
serve to endear the character to the audience. <<
I didn't think she was.
>> Me:
I'm with Nina on that one. :-) No charm, no humor. <<
Your right - I don't agree.
>> But again... that's not the point of the
discussion. We're not analyzing Duncan. We're analyzing Anne <<
But in isolation that's just plain unfair.
>> Doesn't this woman use birth control? <<
Probably not if she wasn't the type who expected to sleep with someone,
they are the ones who usually get caught out.
>> But I think I can be 99% sure that -- all things being equal -- I
wouldn't have gone down into the bowels of that blown-up building. <<
I probably would have.
Elaine.
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:50:41 -0400
From: Elaine Nicol <ElaineN@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne (wasQs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?"))
>> Uh, Elaine? This is a MAJOR no-no to a doctor - it's
not quite in the same league as asking his mates
about him. <<
Ah but the real question is not about looking it's about what you do with
the information. She only looked out of curiosity, if she hadn't I would
have thought her a very strange person indeed. Remember like you I have
been in the position of being privy to private information - I've looked
but I never divulge to anyone and I know you are the same.
>> NOT a whole bottle of sleeping pills - WAY more
dangerous than a couple of aspirins - as a doctor
should know. <<
By that point I think she was so worried and had tried so much that she was
willing to give anything a go. I think she also felt there was no way
Duncan would use them to kill himself. I didn't say it was smart I just
said it was understandable. Doctors are people too.
Elaine.
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:50:42 -0400
From: Elaine Nicol <ElaineN@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne (wasQs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander 5?"))
>> Why? Because you liked her as a character? <<
Why not, it's okay not to like her and have a go, but liking her and
defending her is not. Actually even if I didn't like her I'd have felt
the need to defend her. As it is she isn't my favourite Highlander
character nor is she my least favourite. She was just a character with
good points with bad points but just a person.
>> OK, but it's still ANNE, for our purposes. Just like DM's boots, long
coats, tight jeans, white briefs.... OK--just like ALL the characters'
clothing defined them in part <<
Sort of exactly my point - why should the clothes she wears make you like
or dislike the character. I liked very little of what Richie wore and some
of Duncan's outfits were terrible but they were mere stage dressing and I
never pay that much attention to that anyway.
>> it was that she WAS Anne, who I
found to be completely unlikable for both personal (her appearance &
attitude) & professional (the fact she violated her profession's ethics)
reasons.<<
Fair enough, but I'm only putting an alternate viewpoint.
Elaine.
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:53:48 EDT
From: Ashton7@aol.com
Subject: Final Dragoncon report
Please feel free to forward this to any lists or individuals who you feel
might be interested. Apologies if you get hit with the crosspost.
My "finale" Dragoncon report is finally posted. To go straight there:
http://photos.ashtonpress.net/dragoncon/finale.htm
If you want to see all of the con reports, the photos, etc., start at:
http://photos.ashtonpress.net/dragoncon.htm
And tomorrow we're off to Vancouver and Gatecon. Stay tuned for lots more
photos, reports and, no doubt, convention inspired cartoons.
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:16:14 +0100
From: "John Mosby (B)" <a.j.mosby@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: (OT) Another one bites the dust.....
> How about replacing one of the original characters with one who can hold
his
> breath underwater really, *really* long? Word is that the writing crew
began
> to alter the tone of the show as originally produced for the more
> sophisticated, adult Showtime audience, around about season 4, in order to
> cater to the younger teen demographic watching the Syndicated episodes.
When
> this move diminished the number of new subscribers paying for Showtime to
see
> SG-1, they cancelled it...and Sci-Fi picked it up on a save. Purely
> speculation on my part, but I suspect that Sci-Fi has decided to sacrifice
> FARSCAPE so that it can afford Season 7 of SG-1.
>
> With the current quality of SG-1, I'll be watching FIREFLY, thanks.
>
> Leah
Ah, the famous 'word is...' though I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone use
the words who would be in am official position to actually know for a fact.
Certainly I've seen my fair share of good and poor SG1 episodes and they are
spread fairly evenly over the whole run to date. In fact I'd say episodes
such as Beast of Burden were a sign that it was still possible to produce
decent episodes later in the run.
Danger of repetition and unorginality seem to be the problems, rather than
poor storytelling. But also a long running show has to change by its very
nature. You either start, continue and complete story-arcs - which instigate
a moving direction or you have no forward momentum. Heck, if Stargate SG was
doing the same thign it was doing in season one, I'd have given up on it a
long time ago. Even Michael Shanks got tired of doing the 'let me read those
hieroglyphics' role. Not a huge fan of Jonas, I'll admit (as I said I would
on the SG1 list a while back, if I found it to be true) but as I've only
seen around seven episodeswith him in, I'll see what my opinion is at the
end of the year.
I wouldn't dispute the assumption that Sci-Fi sacrificed Farscape to secure
a seventh season for SG1 (I'd expect that announcement imminently!) and if
that's the case, then I'd love to see a clearer explanation of their
financial reasoning. Farscape's rather surreal start this year may not have
helped it, but it's such a widely respected show that I smell some political
fast-ball going on.
John
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:43:01 -0400
From: L Cameron-Norfleet <cgliser@earthlink.net>
Subject: PoRA
Judy:
>> Can you PLEASE do me a huge favor and remind me what PoRA means? I've
>> suffered from creative memory editing and that part of my memory was, well,
>> creatively edited, and it's driving me NUTS! Well, nuttier, anyway.
>>
Zeek:
>Liser made it up. It's her fault. I forgot, btw, to put (tm)
>after it. It means Person of Recent Arrival (tm). ;-D
>
>ZK (She charges rent for that phrase)(You can pay me and I'll give
>it to her) <eg>
Nice try, Zeek. But I know as well as the next guy that any money
given to you will be spent on RDA underoos and Daniel Jackson catnip
toys for the smallest Zimmermans. Fork it over, woman.
Judy, the acronym was made up during one of the many, many, MANY
<ahem> discussions about G**zers and n*wbies...as someone complained
that the term n*wbie was derogatory by its very nature.
Liser
--
Lisa Cameron-Norfleet ** cgliser@earthlink.net
--
Well that's like hypnotizing chickens. -Iggy Pop: Lust For Life
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Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 16:04:57 -0400
From: KLZ <kzimmerman3@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Doc Anne (wasQs (was-- Re: D & P's power (was" Highlander5?"))
>
> >> it was that she WAS Anne, who I
> found to be completely unlikable for both personal (her appearance &
> attitude) & professional (the fact she violated her profession's ethics)
> reasons.<<
>
There's another TV MD who did this (guess who!); in fact, she
participated in a massive coverup concerning the medical condition
of a very important person. She gave up her license for the
duration of her husband's term of office. I bet *she* didn't get
creamed by the fan base! <g>
But she didn't wear suede miniskirts.
ZK (Dr. Anne and Abby Bartlet are kindred spirits)
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