HIGHLA-L Digest - 24 Jan 2001 to 25 Jan 2001 - Special issue
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There are 21 messages totalling 813 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. OT ...wendys comment (6)
2. Greetings and Question about Endgame--SPOILER (5)
3. Lance's ravings--SPOILER (was--HL:EG box office)
4. Elizabeth Gracen coming to 2001 Fan Odyssey Con
5. Greetings and Question about Endgame
6. OT: "A Breed Apart": Latest Official Word
7. ADMIN: Sexual preferences and excalating discussions (4)
8. my list
9. HL:EG box office
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:35:53 -0700
From: Laura R <larug@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: OT ...wendys comment
At 5:49 PM -0500 1/24/01, jjswbt@earthlink.net wrote:
>So far, I've been accused of:
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<so many things>
well, at least you are the cause of much discussion on this list.
How noble to sacrifice yourself repeatedly just to generate list
traffic. <eg>
--
Laura Ruggiero <larug@earthlink.net>
"Vital papers will demonstrate their vitality by moving from where
you left them to where you can't find them."
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:06:59 -0500
From: jjswbt@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: OT ...wendys comment
I do *so* love it when I get my name in the Subject line <efg>
I said:
<< So far, I've been accused of:
>Having the hots for CL
>Having a personal and private relationship with AP
>Having designs on Stan - sexual or malicious depending on the accuser
>Being mean-spirited
>Baiting the clueless
>Trying to get Lance
kathy of the lower case letters asked:
>and which of the accusations are true? im just curious.
I believe that 4 of the 6 are true or have been true in the past.
Wendy(Vague OBHLR- they pitched Adrian's new series at NAPTE this week)
Fairy Killer
jjswbt@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~jjswbt/index.html
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:51:58 -0500
From: JoAnne Briere <jojoann@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame--SPOILER
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At 19:58 -0500 24/01/01, virginia foster wrote:
>And on another note, Lance, you say that CL has said that he would
>be happy to portray Connor again. Would you please tell us the
>date and location of the interview that he said this? And the magazine
>where the interview appeared?
Not taking issue with anything remotely close to the Lance thingie.
I have two interviews on tapes at home, taken from two differents
television shows taped last year (2000) in France; one from M6 (a specialty
network) and the other one from a mainline network (TF2 I believe).
CL stated how he was done with the Connor character...... until they asked
him again to take it up.
(Oops taking issue nevertheless with the Lance thing . Know better - that I
should not. Sigh. Reading all the _blank_ or deleting many of the
_blank2_, one realisation to me is to realise that some of what could be
true - such as CL openly stating on national television in a country of a
few millions people that he would portray again Connor if asked - is likely
to become "urban legend" in the opposite direction - i.e. that CL would not
portray Connor ever again. Of course, it does also require an
acknowledgement or acceptance that some source of information may come from
somewhere else that the _blank3_ USA) (sigh) (CL is doing major promos
stuff in France right now - Vercingetorix premiered tonight)
@+
JoAnne
jojoann@videotron.ca
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:16:57 -0500
From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame--SPOILER
At 11:51 PM 01/24/01, JoAnne Briere wrote:
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>Reading all the _blank_ or deleting many of the _blank2_, one realisation
>to me is to realise that some of what could be true - such as CL openly
>stating on national television in a country of a few millions people that
>he would portray again Connor if asked - is likely to become "urban
>legend" in the opposite direction - i.e. that CL would not portray Connor
>ever again. Of course, it does also require an acknowledgement or
>acceptance that some source of information may come from somewhere else
>that the _blank3_ USA)
Ouch! Brrrr! It's getting a bit chilly in here! Someone please pass that
woman a new bowl of corn flakes!
-- Sandy
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:18:37 -1000
From: Geiger <geiger@maui.net>
Subject: Re: Lance's ravings--SPOILER (was--HL:EG box office)
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Pat (making an excellent point)--
>>>Uh Lance? MLK, JFK and Ghandi didn't quit. They were killed.
That reminds me, you know nothing helps a cause like having it's leader
martyred. How badly do you want your cause to succeed?>>>
Ah, but then Lance couldn't rant & rave about it. I think Lance needs that.
Of course, he _could_ fake up & post pix of his suspicious death (while he's
"watching" Bill Panzer, the weekly single malt & kilt swatches delivery
truck veers into the bushes where Lance attends to nature's call; Lance is
tragically impaled on his own "Save Connor" picket sign). Then, he could
haunt the list. Messages from the grave.... Sort of Psychic Hotline meets
Highlander: He's Dead, Duncan.
>Rita, we can all stand for just.
Seems to me like someone who stands for justice should be willing to
actually spell out the entire word.
>>>I thought justice was different to
different people depending upon their perspectives. In fact, that theme was
recurrent in HL, particularly the episode with the terrorist woman who
worked
with Duncan in germany and who Duncan has to stop from blowing up certain
other persons (help me with the name of this ep if anyone can.) In that
episode, justice to Duncan was very different from justice to her, even
though they once shared the same views. Duncan's experiences had changed
him.>>>
It was The Valkyrie. And the point was that _Ingrid's_ experience changed
_her_. Her failure to stop Hitler changed her into a murderer. Not exactly
a role model, I wouldn't think, but to each his own.
>>>My theory is sound. If TPTB bring back Connor, they strengthen the
economic
stability of the franchise and DPP. DPP's prosperity than aids us all
through the trickle down effect of economics. Even the poorest of us will
eventually benefit from the economic prosperity at the top. In this way, I
argue that fighting for Connor indirectly help the homeless and the hungry.
People thought I was crazy when I urged HL fans to fight for Connor instead
of working in soup kitchens on Thanksgiving and Christmas. >>>
They thought you were crazy? You're kidding! Really? Bet that happens to
you a lot. And it doesn't give you the least pause?
>>>See my discussion above. The trickle down theory will aid the homeless
if
Connor is brought back.>>>
The only thing trickling down here is the BS.
Nina
geiger@maui.net
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:17:25 -1000
From: Geiger <geiger@maui.net>
Subject: Re: OT ...wendys comment
me--
>>>Kathy, I never got an answer to my question--it is OK to make "bad"
comments
there? Also, is Lance subbed? (That should probably be--"Are Lance
subbed?)>>>
kathy--
>i have to approve subscriptions. lets just say that the information
displayed in the >list should be true statements.
Ah. Well, good luck w/ _that_.
Wendy--
> So far, I've been accused of:
SNIP
> Having designs on Stan - sexual or malicious depending on the accuser
Those are mutually exclusive?
> Being mean-spirited
> Baiting the clueless
Much better than baiting the mean-spirited & being clueless.
> OBHLR: Would anyone be interested in seeing "Raven" Eurominute
transcriptions? > Or do they already exist?
They do not, to my knowledge. Having proudly corralled just about all the
HL:TS ones (including some of your own) I'd adore them, if only to dismiss
the tiniest nagging doubt that perhaps the missing 4 minutes per ep
contained all the good stuff Raven ponied up. (Other than the tag scenes;
Raven did great tags. Maybe because an ep finally being over was such a
relief....)
> Wendy(Could I really sit through 44 hours of Raven?)
You would definitely lose brain cells. It would be a herculean task. You
would be rewarded, surely, in the hereafter. (Here, you'd probably just get
a Duncan's Mug. And be accused of being a Raven-lover. You PAID for Raven
tapes? ANYONE paid for Raven tapes?)
Nina [feeling doomed today, having just placed an order--NOT for Raven
tapes--w/ the HL Store; moronic salesperson tried to push Xena/Herc junk &
hotly denied slipping shopping club memberships onto credit cards, so I made
her pronounce all the long & multi-vowelled Hawaiian words in my
address--twice]
geiger@maui.net
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:30:59 -0500
From: Lisa Kadlec <lkadlec@Princeton.EDU>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame--SPOILER
I probably shouldn't do this, but...
JoAnne Briere wrote:
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> At 19:58 -0500 24/01/01, virginia foster wrote:
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> >And on another note, Lance, you say that CL has said that he would
> >be happy to portray Connor again. Would you please tell us the
> >date and location of the interview that he said this? And the magazine
> >where the interview appeared?
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> Not taking issue with anything remotely close to the Lance thingie.
Probably a wise thing. <g>
> I have two interviews on tapes at home, taken from two differents
> television shows taped last year (2000) in France; one from M6 (a specialty
> network) and the other one from a mainline network (TF2 I believe).
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> CL stated how he was done with the Connor character...... until they asked
> him again to take it up.
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> (Oops taking issue nevertheless with the Lance thing . Know better - that I
> should not. Sigh.
Oh well. We all get sucked into conversations and 'things' our better
judgement warns us against. I know I have. That said, the rest of your
post has me kind of confused.
> Reading all the _blank_ or deleting many of the
> _blank2_, one realisation to me is to realise that some of what could be
> true - such as CL openly stating on national television in a country of a
> few millions people that he would portray again Connor if asked - is likely
> to become "urban legend" in the opposite direction - i.e. that CL would not
> portray Connor ever again.
I apologize, JoAnne, but I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say
here. It *sounds* like you're saying that if CL states on national
television that he would portray Connor again, for some reason people
will interpret this as the opposite, and that this will become an 'urban
legend.' Is that right? If so, why do you think that?
Also, I'm not sure how the quote in question, as you've reported it
above, tells us anything about CL's desire to portray Connor in the
*future*. It sounds like he said that before 'Endgame' he considered
himself 'done' with the character, but that he changed his mind when he
was approached about the film. I think that this is a separate issue
from whether CL has said that he is or is not interested in playing
Connor *again*. Others here have reported that CL has said he doesn't
want to play Connor anymore. Lance keeps saying that CL said he 'would
if asked.' Why shouldn't people who have only heard the former
information be curious as to the details of Lance's information?
> Of course, it does also require an
> acknowledgement or acceptance that some source of information may come from
> somewhere else that the _blank3_ USA) (sigh) (CL is doing major promos
> stuff in France right now - Vercingetorix premiered tonight)
Huh????? Why the need for a 'sigh'? Where in this conversation, or in
any conversation on this list, has someone denied the existence or
validity of information from shows, interviews, etc. originating in
other countries? We have, on multiple occasions, seen announcements of
(and later reports about) interviews on Canadian television. We've had
reports of articles in foreign languages, and translations thereof.
American list members can hardly be faulted for not knowing the content
of interviews shown only in France. If, for example, I read that CL
doesn't want to play Connor again, and several other people report
having read/heard the same thing, but he says differently on French or
English or Norwegian tv, to which I have no access, does that mean that
I will only accept information from the US? No. It just means that I
don't know about this other information. (Mind you, I don't think what
you describe of the French interviews in question actually speaks to the
issue of CL's interest in Connor in the *future*, but that's a different
issue.)
Quite frankly, I'm a bit insulted by your implication that American list
members (of which I'm one) are so narrow-minded (prejudiced?) that they
will not acknowledge or accept anything that didn't air in the good old
US of A.
Lisa
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:39:40 -0500
From: JoAnne Briere <jojoann@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame--SPOILER
At 00:16 -0500 25/01/01, Sandy Fields wrote:
>Ouch! Brrrr! It's getting a bit chilly in here! Someone please pass that
>woman a new bowl of corn flakes!
6 feet of snow left on the ground. Still snowing. I hate corn flakes. Hot
oatmeal, peaches and cream. Thanks.
Snowing, but Bruno sang La Manic and Louise Forestier sang Quand les hommes
vivront d'amour ... so snow can do,
JoAnne
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:50:34 EST
From: C K Harroz <CEEKAH@aol.com>
Subject: Elizabeth Gracen coming to 2001 Fan Odyssey Con
I saw on another list that Elizabeth Gracen has been added as a guest for the
2001 Fan Odyssey Con in April. Thought you guys might be interested. Other
guest of course include Stan Kirsch and Maureen RusselI. I understand the
con is limited to only 100 registrations.
Cekah
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 00:32:59 -0600
From: Nora Jones <najones@ilstu.edu>
Subject: Re: OT ...wendys comment
At 06:17 PM 1/24/01 -1000, Geiger wrote in response to fairy-killer:
<snip>
>Much better than baiting the mean-spirited & being clueless.
Great line! Gave me a great moment of laughter (at work :-/ ) when I first
read it. Yes, I still have my job.
><snip> You PAID for Raven
>tapes? ANYONE paid for Raven tapes?)
I paid for Raven tapes. And I remain Duncan-centric -- can't accuse me of
being a Raven lover, nope, not me. Have I watched them? Uh... No. Like
you said, I might lose brain cells. Actually, lack of time is likely the
real culprit. I really must rescue those from my black hole of a dining
room. Good thing they are still in the plastic wrap. I have these two
cats that are very furry for domestic short hairs and they are subject to
hairballs from time to time (yeah, yeah, TMI, I know). They seem to have
very good aim, too.
So, why did I pay for these tapes, not watch them, and treat them with such
uh... disrespect? What was that ZK used to have in her sig line...
something like... He *is* in Raven! Is IS *IS*!!! (I really must rescue
them.) Just being a completist, I guess. Also, at some point they will no
longer be available. Easier to get them now and get rid of them later if I
decide I don't need them than to need them later and not be able to find
them anywhere.
>so I made
>her pronounce all the long & multi-vowelled Hawaiian words in my
>address--twice]
Oooooo... talk about being mean-spirited and baiting the clueless! Fairy
Killer has competition!
-- Nora (fading back into lurkdom)
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:48:31 -0000
From: Jette Goldie <bosslady@freeuk.com>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame--SPOILER
Lynn says:
> I certainly hope nobody outside HL fandom actually hears you spout your
"I'm Gandhi" line of B.S., or once again media fans will be marginalized and
ridiculed as Spock-ear-wearing-to-jury-duty losers who can't tell the
difference between fantasy and reality.<
Will Lance care?
Jette
Glory may be fleeting, but obscurity is forever!
bosslady@scotlandmail.com
http://members.tripod.com/~bosslady/fanfic.html
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 04:03:37 -0500
From: "Claire L. Maier, Ph.D." <bioaw124@emory.edu>
Subject: Re: Greetings and Question about Endgame
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Lance Aldridge wrote:
> TPTB met with myself and peter veneem in December. they know our demands and
> are conisdering our requests.
No, they didn't. Ginjer Buchanan checked with DPP on this.
Lance is lying.
--
Claire Maier, Ph.D. bioaw124@emory.edu CLMaier (within AOL only)
To be different is not necessarily to be ugly;
to have a different idea is not necessarily to be wrong.
The worst possible thing is for all of us to begin
to look and act and think alike.
-- Gene Roddenberry
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 01:39:13 -1000
From: methos <methos@pixi.com>
Subject: OT: "A Breed Apart": Latest Official Word
I wrote to Marc McCarthy, an executive at STARZ! regarding more
details about air date, the STARZ! Interview with AP and the cast,
and possible theatrical release before VHS/DVD release, etc. This
is the reply I received Wednesday, 25 January:
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"Thank you for your very passionate email regarding Adrian Paul and the
STARZ! Pictures' original film A BREED APART - by the way, this is still a
working title. The film is tentatively scheduled to have its world premiere
this August on STARZ! - no specific date has been set yet.
I have no information at this time whether the film will have a theatrical
release or go straight to video/DVD....I'm inclined to say that it will go to
video/DVD after its run on STARZ!
I'm sorry, but contractually we can't release any of the on-the-set interview
footage we shot with Adrian. Keep tuned to STARZ! and I promise there will
be more to come in the following months.
Also, we should have a web location available in the next 30 days.
Keep in touch.
Regards,
Marc C. McCarthy
STARZ! Pictures"
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TC <writer of "passionate email"> <heh heh heh>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1973 07:09:04 -0500
From: Judith Schneider <judiths@CapAccess.org>
Subject: Re: OT ...wendys comment
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Sandy Fields wrote:
> At 02:57 PM 01/24/2001, Marina Bailey wrote:
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> >Of course, this could also be part of Wendy's elaborate plan to start up
> >discussions by baiting people who are clueless about list culture.
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> Wendy wouldn't do that. That would be mean-spirited.
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And we all know that she _really_ stands for Sweetness & Light!
Judy, the Chocolate Slayer judiths@capaccess.org
Waving a flag for the blue feather and a turbolight for Apollo
"I never met a chocolate I didn't like"--Deanna Troi
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1973 07:10:09 -0500
From: Judith Schneider <judiths@CapAccess.org>
Subject: Re: OT ...wendys comment
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 Highlandmg@aol.com wrote:
> my ten cents on this maybe Wendy's trying to get Lance or one of Lance's
> personalities....
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But what would she do with it? .... come to think of it, you're
suggesting that Lance _has_ a personality. I think that's debatable.
Judy, the Chocolate Slayer judiths@capaccess.org
Waving a flag for the blue feather and a turbolight for Apollo
"I never met a chocolate I didn't like"--Deanna Troi
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:25:55 -0500
From: "McDonald, Susan" <McDonaldS@genrad.com>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Sexual preferences and excalating discussions
Debbie offered:
> So when someone on this list jokingly suggests that one
> of the Highlander actors may be something that you -know-
> that they could never be ( gay? straight? a lion tamer? a
> name misspeller? a non-recycler? illiterate? a Rhodes
> scholar? a former postal worker? a weasel insulter? or -
> heavens forbid! - a recluse? ) should you comment about it?
> Of course.
And even more so if the suggestion is that they're Canadian...
<g>
Susan McDonald, Co-Chief Flag Waver to Vile Duncan MacLeod
http://members.tripod.com/~NotorDJP/vdm.html
Work: mcdonalds@genrad.com Home: smcdonald13@mediaone.com
I have opinions. My employer has opinions.
Make no mistake... these are mine.
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:24:53 -0500
From: Marina Bailey <tmar@fast.co.za>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Sexual preferences and excalating discussions
Susan wrote:
>And even more so if the suggestion is that they're Canadian...
Canadian! Why didn't I think of that! Especially considering
this thread comes right on the heels of Liser's (was it Liser?)
post about Eric McCormack (faint, swoon, drool) and being
Canadian. I loved that. :)
- Marina.
\\ "Cast your eyes on the ocean; cast your soul ||>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> //
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//======Marina Bailey======tmar@fast.co.za======|| \\
\\============Chief Flag Waver and Defender of Richie=============//
"I'd rather be watching 'The Sentinel'... no, 'Highlander'... wait,
'Stargate SG-1' is on... Oh, hell, make it all and make it so!"
- Tarryn
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:47:03 -0000
From: Judy Ruiz <macaruin@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: my list
Kathy, it is really hard to tell what you have added to the post that you
respond to. You need to delete stuff that isn't necessarily important to
your respnse and add a few extra lines before replying. You comments often
look like signature lines not additional comments. Thanks.
But I felt compelled to delurk to say, this
>list has the most *interesting* arguments!!
>Dena Jo ô.ô>>
>Opinions are what they are. Just make sure when somebody is joking, that
>they put j/k or something to that effect.
>kathy
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:34:53 -0500
From: Lisa Kadlec <lkadlec@Princeton.EDU>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Sexual preferences and excalating discussions
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Marina Bailey wrote:
> Susan wrote:
> >And even more so if the suggestion is that they're Canadian...
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> Canadian! Why didn't I think of that! Especially considering
> this thread comes right on the heels of Liser's (was it Liser?)
> post about Eric McCormack (faint, swoon, drool) and being
> Canadian. I loved that. :)
No, no, no!!!! It was me!!!! <vbg> Sorry, but I've been here since
almost the dawn of time (I pre-date weasels, and I remember when you
*started* whapping people with that flag-pole, Marina <bg>), so it's a
little frustrating to still be confused with other people, even if we're
both 'Lisa K.' (Then again, there used to be *three* Lisa K.'s posting
here, which was even worse) (Maybe I should have given myself a nickname,
or something <g>)
Lisa Kadlec
lkadlec@princeton.edu
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:38:36 -0000
From: Rita Ballantyne <kilmarnock.oradea@virginnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Sexual preferences and excalating discussions
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geiger" <geiger@maui.net>
You wish slash were about AP?
not especially. I meant I wish he was immortal.
Well, I question (even shudder at) your
> taste, but in fact there IS slash specifically "starring" & written about
> the HL _actors_, as opposed to the characters. And, no, I don't have any
> bookmarks to pass along.
wow! that's a surprise. anyone w bookmarks?
Rita
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 17:11:26 -0000
From: Rita Ballantyne <kilmarnock.oradea@virginnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: HL:EG box office
Lance
Either way, how do we know
who is right?
it is not a question of right or wrong, it is a fact.
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My theory is sound. If TPTB bring back Connor, they strengthen the economic
stability of the franchise and DPP. DPP's prosperity than aids us all
through the trickle down effect of economics. Even the poorest of us will
eventually benefit from the economic prosperity at the top. In this way, I
argue that fighting for Connor indirectly help the homeless and the hungry.
People thought I was crazy when I urged HL fans to fight for Connor instead
of working in soup kitchens on Thanksgiving and Christmas. The impact could
be so much greater.
uh, Lance, I was born in Romania and Iám not delighted w that helping idea.
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