There are 8 messages totalling 283 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Merlin 2000 Question (4) 2. HL:EG box office (3) 3. HL:EG box office--SPOILER ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:26:15 -0500 From: Parisrose <parisrose@prodigy.net> Subject: Merlin 2000 Question A few weeks ago someone mentioned AP's movie - Merlin 2000 (and in some places it's Merlin :The Return) The post made it sound like they had actually seen it. Can anyone tell me if it's somewhere in theaters or straight to video? I haven't been able to find it listed anywhere. Is it possible it was only released in the UK ? Another question - was this filmed before or after the end of the series? Thanks - susan parisrose@prodigy.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:33:50 EST From: Dotiran@aol.com Subject: Re: Merlin 2000 Question In a message dated 1/16/01 11:26:49 PM US Eastern Standard Time, parisrose@prodigy.net writes: << Is it possible it was only released in the UK ? Yes, so far Merlin has only opened in the UK, <<Another question - was this filmed before or after the end of the series? after It was filmed in South Africa and filming was completed by Christmas of '98 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:40:48 -0800 From: "R. Shelton" <rshelton@jps.net> Subject: Re: Merlin 2000 Question At 11:26 PM -0500 01/16/2001, Parisrose wrote: >A few weeks ago someone mentioned AP's movie - Merlin 2000 (and in >some places it's Merlin :The Return) The post made it sound like >they had actually seen it. Can anyone tell me if it's somewhere in >theaters or straight to video? It's not been released at all in the US yet. >I haven't been able to find it listed anywhere. Is it possible it >was only released in the UK ? Yes - only in the UK. >Another question - was this filmed before or after the end of the series? After the end of the series - I think I remember seeing that it was filmed in 1998. If I'm wrong someone else will probably know exactly. . . Rachel Rachel Shelton rshelton@jps.net @}->->->- "I think you need a taste of life. . . ." Duncan MacLeod ~Justice~ Highlander:TS * ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:39:08 EST From: List Kathy Avery <Lynxf19@aol.com> Subject: Re: Merlin 2000 Question Parisrose <parisrose@prodigy.net> writes: << A few weeks ago someone mentioned AP's movie - Merlin 2000 (and in some places it's Merlin :The Return) The post made it sound like they had actually seen it. Can anyone tell me if it's somewhere in theaters or straight to video? I haven't been able to find it listed anywhere. Is it possible it was only released in the UK ? Thanks - susan parisrose@prodigy.net>> I looked at the newswire on Adrian Paul's official site at celebrityblvd.com. It said that the movie does not have a distributor. kathy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:50:16 -1000 From: Geiger <geiger@maui.net> Subject: HL:EG box office The 2-01 issue of Sci Fi magazine has a tally of estimated US gross receipts for the summer flicks. 1. Mission Impossible $218 mil 2. Gladiator $187 mil 3. Perfect Storm $180 mil 4. X-Men $160 mil 5. Scary Movie $158 mil 6. What Lies Beneath $150 mil 7. Dinosaur $140 mil 8. Nutty Prof. II $125 mil 9. Big Mama's House $118 mil 10. Patriot $115 mil Then, they list several more genre movies who didn't make the top 10. Chicken Run $110 mil Space Cowboys $88 mil Hollow Man $80 mil Cell $62 mil Rocky & Bullwinkle $26 mil Titan AE $23 mil Battlefield Earth $21 mil American Psycho $15 mil HIGHLANDER ENDGAME $14 MIL Godzilla 2000 $10 mil Yep, HL:EG's down in the genre cellar; the mag referred to these films as "fizzling like a dud firecracker." For comparison w/ HL:EG's $14mil US gross, a previous post quoted IMDb as-- >>> HL1 - $5.9m (USA) HL2 - $15.556m (USA) HL3 - $13.829m (USA)>>> So, HL:EG may have barely beaten HL3 (or not, if Sci-Fi's # was rounded upward). But it didn't do as well in the US as HL2 did. (HL2! The shame of being beaten by the Zeist flick....) And, if one adjusts for inflation, then HL:EG's 2000 take is even less impressive compared to ticket prices back in 1991 (HL2) & 1994 (HL3). I'm sure HL:EG will make some money in oversees markets, but I don't see any reason to think oversees audiences will embrace it any more than US audiences did. Nina geiger@maui.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:52:57 EST From: Lance Aldridge <GPrimeCEO@aol.com> Subject: Re: HL:EG box office In a message dated 1/17/01 2:51:50 PM Central Standard Time, geiger@maui.net writes: > > Yep, HL:EG's down in the genre cellar; the mag referred to these films as > "fizzling like a dud firecracker." > > For comparison w/ HL:EG's $14mil US gross, a previous post quoted IMDb as-- > >>> HL1 - $5.9m (USA) > HL2 - $15.556m (USA) > HL3 - $13.829m (USA)>>> > > So, HL:EG may have barely beaten HL3 (or not, if Sci-Fi's # was rounded > upward). But it didn't do as well in the US as HL2 did. (HL2! The shame > of being beaten by the Zeist flick....) And, if one adjusts for inflation, > then HL:EG's 2000 take is even less impressive compared to ticket prices > back in 1991 (HL2) & 1994 (HL3). > > I'm sure HL:EG will make some money in oversees markets, but I don't see any > reason to think oversees audiences will embrace it any more than US > audiences did. > > As I've said, Endgame is the death toll for the franchise. TPTB will have to rethink their disatrous decision to kill Connor and hand over the franchise to the pretender. This does not bode well for us all................... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:05:11 -0500 From: Sandy Fields <diamonique@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: HL:EG box office At 06:52 PM 01/17/01, Lance Aldridge wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As I've said, Endgame is the death toll for the franchise. TPTB will have to >rethink their disatrous decision to kill Connor and hand over the franchise >to the pretender. Well they don't *have* to rethink anything. But if they are ever of a mind to look back at the problems with Endgame, I think they need to look at the various issues and problems that resulted in the decision to edit the movie to death. -- Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:44:48 -1000 From: Geiger <geiger@maui.net> Subject: Re: HL:EG box office--SPOILER SPOILER!!! S P O I L E R S P A C E S J U S T F O R L A N C E Lance-- > As I've said, Endgame is the death toll for the franchise. TPTB will have to > rethink their disatrous decision to kill Connor and hand over the franchise > to the pretender. > This does not bode well for us all................... What does not bode well for YOU is your tiresome inability/refusal to follow simple rules. You have been told & reminded about spoiler rules for plot points of HL:EG, specifically Connor's death. And, that's "death knell." Which in fact it may be, though not for the reason you give. A bad movie is a bad movie, no matter who lives or who gets killed off. Nina geiger@maui.net ------------------------------ End of HIGHLA-L Digest - 16 Jan 2001 to 17 Jan 2001 (#2001-33) **************************************************************