HIGHLA-L Digest - 12 Apr 2001 to 13 Apr 2001 (#2001-120)
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There are 16 messages totalling 448 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. **HELP** Need a List Member's E-Addy!! (5)
2. Stan on Jag request
3. Mike Palochek Memorial (5)
4. OT: Hate Crime? (5)
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 13:12:15 EDT
From: Billie Lee <McCelt2000@aol.com>
Subject: **HELP** Need a List Member's E-Addy!!
Hey there all,
Sorry to waste bandwidth with this, but I seem to have lost Nina Geiger's
email address.
Nina are you out there? <g> Or could someone help me out by sending me her
email addy. Thanks so much and a Happy Easter Season to all!
Do Immortals celebrate Easter? I guess Darius did when he was still with us,
eh?
Forever Peace,
Billie-Lee
mccelt2000@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:04:10 -0400
From: KLZ <zklee@patriot.net>
Subject: Re: Stan on Jag request
> Hi to those who saw Stan on Jag on March 27, 2001. Well, I loved his role
> of Lt. Ferrari.
Didn't Wr - ry- rit - er - the red-haired kid drive a Ferrari in
"Ransom of Richard Redstone?"
ZK
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:38:46 EDT
From: Lance Aldridge <GPrimeCEO@aol.com>
Subject: Re: **HELP** Need a List Member's E-Addy!!
Hi, I think Nina can be reached at savconconsortium@aol.com.
Hope this helps.
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:47:39 EDT
From: Dotiran@aol.com
Subject: Re: **HELP** Need a List Member's E-Addy!!
In a message dated 4/13/01 3:39:38 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
GPrimeCEO@aol.com writes:
<< Hi, I think Nina can be reached at savconconsortium@aol.com.
Um, ever hear of having a tiger by the tail?:::::
I'm ducking.
[pssst. I've sent Nina's address to Billie Lee by email]
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:22:18 -1000
From: Geiger <geiger@maui.net>
Subject: Re: **HELP** Need a List Member's E-Addy!!
Lance--
> Hi, I think Nina can be reached at savconconsortium@aol.com.
> Hope this helps.
Cute. I guess pigs are aloft & hell is a skating rink....
But, Lance, I'm surprised to see you posting--thought you'd sacrificed
yourself to the cause by now. How'd you like the HL:EG VHS/DVD?
Nina
geiger@maui.net (& no place else)
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:52:05 EDT
From: Lance Aldridge <GPrimeCEO@aol.com>
Subject: Mike Palochek Memorial
For those who are interested, the Save Connor site has a Mike palochek
memorial section up. Mike is a HL fan and a Connor fan who lost his life
recently. I deceided to place a guestbook on his page so we could sign in
his memory.
The link to the main Save Connor page is
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/saveconnormacleod.
The link to the memorial section is
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/saveconnormacleod/memorial.html
Hope you guys can visit and remember Mike.
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:15:28 -0500
From: Kamil <kamil@mmcable.com>
Subject: Re: Mike Palochek Memorial
<pick a name, any name>
: For those who are interested, the Save Connor site has a
Mike palochek
: memorial section up. Mike is a HL fan and a Connor fan
who lost his life
: recently. I deceided to place a guestbook on his page so
we could sign in
: his memory.
:
: The link to the memorial section is
:
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/saveconnormacleod/memorial.ht
ml
<Kamil>
Oh, goodie, he brought it up here. You guys *need* to see
this. Honest. Trust me on this one. <weg>
Warning: don't eat or drink while reading the page; I'd hate
to be responsible for damped down monitors and keyboards --
and this is spew-worthy, fall out of the chair laughing
funny.
Teaser: "Mike" was killed by us nasty anti-Connor types --
and in such a creative manner too. *snerk*
Kamil
*******
"Aww, Melanie the Martyr. Want me to set you on fire?"
Brian -- QaF
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:34:04 -0700
From: Jen Allen <jen@jendaveallen.com>
Subject: Re: Mike Palochek Memorial
Lance Aldridge wrote:
>
> The link to the memorial section is
> http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/saveconnormacleod/memorial.html
>
> Hope you guys can visit and remember Mike.
Um, you might want to post the correct URL if you actually want people
to see the page.
Just a thought.
Jen (With Kamil's encouragement I finally found it at
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/saveconnormacleod/memoriam.html)(thanks
for the warning not to drink and read Kamil)<g>
--
Corporal - MFWC Jen Allen PWFC co-RC Northern CA
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Chronicler for JL Dawson =+=+=+= Bryan Cutler =+=+=+= James O'Leary
Read their stories at: http://www.jendaveallen.com/Fanfic/ficidx.htm
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:36:29 -0400
From: Dragon Lady <dragonlady@darkmage.net>
Subject: Re: Mike Palochek Memorial
Lance,
Pretty reprehensible to take the details of a heinous hate-based crime and
use them to further your own sick little self-serving agenda.
--Dragon Lady
At 4/13/01 05:52 PM, you wrote:
>The link to the memorial section is
>http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/saveconnormacleod/memorial.html
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:47:00 -0500
From: Kamil <kamil@mmcable.com>
Subject: OT: Hate Crime?
<Dragon Lady>
: Pretty reprehensible to take the details of a heinous
hate-based crime and
: use them to further your own sick little self-serving
agenda.
<Kamil>
::::raises hand:::: What have I missed? I only read the
newsgroup sporadically (and I filter out Lance and his sock
family as best I can) -- but has he copied the details of
something that actually happened to a real live person? And
a hate crime at that?
God.
If he did, I apologize for cackling about it -- I thought
this was just something else that dripped off of the moss
that passes for his mind.
Kamil, worried...
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:51:25 -0400
From: virginia foster <vfoster@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Mike Palochek Memorial
At 05:15 PM 04/13/01 -0500, you wrote:
><pick a name, any name>
>: For those who are interested, the Save Connor site has a Mike palochek
>: memorial section up. Mike is a HL fan and a Connor fan who lost his life
>: recently. I deceided to place a guestbook on his page so we could sign in
>: his memory.
>:
>: The link to the memorial section is
>:
>http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/saveconnormacleod/memorial.ht
>ml
>
>Kamil
>
>Oh, goodie, he brought it up here. You guys *need* to see
>this. Honest. Trust me on this one. <weg>
>
>Warning: don't eat or drink while reading the page; I'd hate
>to be responsible for damped down monitors and keyboards --
>and this is spew-worthy, fall out of the chair laughing
>funny.
>
Actually, I don't find it at all funny. It's a disgusting mis-use of the
term hate-crime. Everyday, people are attacked and even killed
because of their color, origin, sexual preference or religious belief.
Those are real hate-crimes.
To even think of using that terrifying scenario in such a crude parody
is sad and disgusting. oh please. Do you really think anyone still cares?
To even joke about (and yes... I do think the story as depicted on the
website is a sick, sick joke) it is horrid.
I, for one, will be writing to AngelFire to complain. IMGLO, this has got to
be some kind of checking out the main angelfire site to see if the web
page can be found in violation against it's terms of service. REAL people
have died by the method described and it scary to think that Lance thinks
it's okay to use other people's grief for his own fantasies.
It's disgusting to think that someone has so little regard for human
suffering. :(
virginia
vfoster@mindspring.com *@*@* http://www.mindspring.com/~vfoster/va.html
"I saw the movie Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and I didn't see any tigers
or dragons. Then I realized why, they were crouching and hidden."
Steve Martin at the 2001 Academy Awards
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:55:34 -0400
From: virginia foster <vfoster@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Hate Crime?
At 05:47 PM 04/13/01 -0500, you wrote:
><Dragon Lady>
>: Pretty reprehensible to take the details of a heinous
>hate-based crime and
>: use them to further your own sick little self-serving
>agenda.
>
><Kamil>
>::::raises hand:::: What have I missed? I only read the
>newsgroup sporadically (and I filter out Lance and his sock
>family as best I can) -- but has he copied the details of
>something that actually happened to a real live person? And
>a hate crime at that?
>
>God.
>
>If he did, I apologize for cackling about it -- I thought
>this was just something else that dripped off of the moss
>that passes for his mind.
>
Yes he did. I think it was a year or so ago in Texas that a man was beaten,
tied to a truck and dragged until he was. Why? He was black, or gay. I
honestly don't remember. But I think there were three white men tried
for the murder. And that's the one I remember. I'm sure there are
many such cases that we don't hear about.
In a time where too many people are killed for their beliefs it's sad
that Lance thinks this is okay. To use suffereing for his own twisted
fantasies. :(
virginia
vfoster@mindspring.com *@*@* http://www.mindspring.com/~vfoster/va.html
"I saw the movie Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and I didn't see any tigers
or dragons. Then I realized why, they were crouching and hidden."
Steve Martin at the 2001 Academy Awards
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:06:32 -0500
From: Kamil <kamil@mmcable.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Hate Crime?
<virginia>
: Yes he did. I think it was a year or so ago in Texas that
a man was beaten,
: tied to a truck and dragged until he was. Why? He was
black, or gay. I
: honestly don't remember. But I think there were three
white men tried
: for the murder. And that's the one I remember. I'm sure
there are
: many such cases that we don't hear about.
<Kamil>
That's unspeakably awful, and I feel terrible for not
realizing that crime had actually occurred.
I really am too sheltered: it never occurred to me to
consider that he'd copied that story from a RL event -- and
I'm not sure if it's because I don't like to think about
something like that still happening in this day and time
*sigh*, or if it's because I can't imagine the ... God, I
can't come up with a word... the total lack of personal
shame that using something like that *knowingly* indicates.
But since his lack of anything resembling a moral center
isn't my problem, I think I'm going to go and contemplate
the error of my ways now.
Kamil
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:59:08 -0400
From: Dragon Lady <dragonlady@darkmage.net>
Subject: Re: OT: Hate Crime?
I believe this is the case you are thinking of:
<http://www.texasnaacp.org/jasper.htm>
--DL
At 4/13/01 06:55 PM, you wrote:
>Yes he did. I think it was a year or so ago in Texas that a man was beaten,
>tied to a truck and dragged until he was. Why? He was black, or gay. I
>honestly don't remember. But I think there were three white men tried
>for the murder. And that's the one I remember. I'm sure there are
>many such cases that we don't hear about.
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 13:45:01 -1000
From: Geiger <geiger@maui.net>
Subject: Re: OT: Hate Crime?
Kamil--
> That's unspeakably awful, and I feel terrible for not
> realizing that crime had actually occurred. SNIP
> But since his lack of anything resembling a moral center
> isn't my problem, I think I'm going to go and contemplate
> the error of my ways now.
Relax, Kamil. I don't think anyone can condemn you for underestimating
Lance's rampant iniquity. I suspect it happens w/ him all the time,
whenever he interacts w/ people who, as you say, possess some version of a
moral compass.
Nina (tried to tie this into HL, but won't--it's way too ugly to be
on-topic. as usual when Lance is in a thread--it's all about him.)
geiger@maui.net
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:23:48 EDT
From: Billie Lee <McCelt2000@aol.com>
Subject: Re: **HELP** Need a List Member's E-Addy!!
Thanks everybody, I got Nina's addy, you guys are swell!!
Forever Peace,
Billie-Lee
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